Habbo.dk disables dicemasters! Casinos = illegal

[Red]

Gambling was banned in sg before, wasn't it? I would rather have the hotels unmerged than have a dice ban enforced on ours . This really is going to kill denmark.

[Special]

things will kick off big time if this is introduced to habbo.com - up till now casino owners & players haven't really been affected by the silly updates this past year but this will really rock them and force many of them to leave

[LoveToStack]

I can't think of any reason why a gambling system based on fridges won't work. This ban on dice shouldn't really do anything to affect the casino community. They've removed furni which has strong connotations of gambling but they've left in a heap of furni which works in the exact same way (as far as I can tell).

As best I can remember, it has never been possible to pull a specific drink out of a fridge-furni which dispenses more than one item (I know it's possible to pull an item from the air but I mean when you click a fridge and it dispenses a random item). This leads me to believe that the fridges probably work the same way as dicemasters, holodice etc all worked; with some kind of pseudorandom number generator. This would make it impossible to know what you'll get which makes it perfect for gambling.

vito201- or Abdicators might be able to clarify if that is in fact how fridges assign items. If it is then you could literally just replace dice with fridges and assign numerical values to the items which they dispense.

[Jake]

If this happens on .com imo it will cause a complete disaster for sulake.

Gambling was banned in sg before, wasn't it? I would rather have the hotels unmerged than have a dice ban enforced on ours . This really is going to kill denmark.

Yeh it was banned in .sg i went on before to see what it was like and it seemed pointless tbh lol.

[Pidy]

Hey, i'm from Habbo.dk

I just wanted to say that most of the danish Habbo's have left the hotel, because of this.
It's so annoying that we can't play casino, grabber, bingo etc..

I really hope they will do something about it, cause it's god damn boring!

[Special]

Hey, i'm from Habbo.dk

I just wanted to say that most of the danish Habbo's have left the hotel, because of this.
It's so annoying that we can't play casino, grabber, bingo etc..

I really hope they will do something about it, cause it's god damn boring!

come to .com! you only need to learn a few phrases haha

[:Act]

What Habbo (and to a greater extent anybody in a controlling/powerful/governmental position) seem to forget is that if people want to do something, they will find a way to do it no matter what laws and regulations are put in place. As already demonstrated an idea has been thrown around about using fridges instead. Going back only a few weeks look at the amount of people that managed to evade the chat filter when even singular letters were banned. When more and more restrictions come into play, people become more and more innovative to do something if they really want to do it. Clearly there is a huge demand for not only casinos, but also dice based games (Bingo, trivia, DTTW), and to ban them to stop gambling is a joke. When they realise that people are using other random generators (fridges) to create gambling games then will they ban them? The more they try and ban the less user-friendly experience the hotel will have and then people will have no real reason to come on, effectively killing an already destroyed community.

Furthermore I don't entirely understand how this can be deemed as gambling under the law. Yes under 18's can buy credits and use them or furni purchased to 'gamble' with on the hotel, but you cannot get anything non-virtual back (without breaking rules at least, since you could potentially sell any winnings on ebay or something), and so there is no real element of gambling since you cannot (by the rules) get anything of physical value BACK. I see this something akin to when you pay £1 to use a Toy-Grabber machine at an arcade. You pay the money which turns into credits and you are gambling that money based on your ability to grab a toy. If you win you get something physical. These are still legal, but when you don't get anything physical back, I don't see how it's gambling. It's more like going through the motions of gambling without winning anything in return. If the law is so worried that people will turn their winnings into cash then more should be done by Habbo to control sales of furni into real cash. As it stands though I think their definition of 'gambling' is inaccurate since you cannot get anything physical back, and I think Habbo is wrong to remove use of dice. They're not really doing much to improve the vibe on the hotel are they?

Edit: Also just as an afterthought - under 18's in this country can get onto betting websites where they have games, and you can play with real money, and also fake money to try the game. You don't need to register or anything. You can play roulette, bingo, keno, other gambling games etc and not get anything in return. A similar principle is on Habbo, not every person who uses Habbo pays for it. Someone can go to a giveaway, get some furni, gamble it at a casino, and never have spent any money. Is this not the same principle as the 'free gambling games' you can find pretty much anywhere online where you receive nothing physical in return?

[Pidy]

I'm already playing on .com

Been playing on .com since 09

[edible]

I know someone has sent an email to the Gambling Commission (based in UK) asking them to investigate Habbo.COM.

[Pidy]

On Habbo.dk you only need to be 12+ to join