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    Quote Originally Posted by Intricat View Post
    Wonder if anyone on here knew him
    I live not far from him, sick person terrible considering he was a PCSO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk, View Post
    Sure, habbo need to get better safety, parents need to look after their children but no one forced a disgusting man to do this.

    He deserves 50 years in prison, anyone who thinks I'm being too horrible... just take a think for a while what type of man this is, and especially since he's meant to be keeping us safe by being with the police. In three years time, there is no guarantee at all that he has changed his ways. Even if its only 15 years in jail, that would be more suitable. My opinion -- everyone has their right for their opinion.
    There is no guarantee of that not matter what sentence they are given. I suspect that's one of many reasons why people like @-:Undertaker:-; would support the death penalty. It ensures it doesn't happen again.

    Not that I support it, just saying : P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intersocial View Post
    There is no guarantee of that not matter what sentence they are given. I suspect that's one of many reasons why people like @-:Undertaker:-; would support the death penalty. It ensures it doesn't happen again.

    Not that I support it, just saying : P

    I support the death penalty or the actual life in jail until you die sort of thing. You should get that for murder and things like this . My own opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intersocial View Post
    There is no guarantee of that not matter what sentence they are given. I suspect that's one of many reasons why people like @-:Undertaker:-; would support the death penalty. It ensures it doesn't happen again.

    Not that I support it, just saying : P
    I only support the death penalty in cases of murder, rape and child rape are in my opinion worthy of a life sentence but not death.


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    Most people seem to think 3 years is too short - I still disagree. Three years is a very long time. It's easy to say "just three years!?", but when you think about it - think of life in your own experience - three years takes a long time to pass (well, it takes exactly three years, to be precise), especially when you're in a prison.

    He never touched anyone. He never mentally harmed anyone. What he did was disgusting, but not life-threatening, and the sad truth is that the internet is absolutely riddled with guys just like him, most of which are not on Habbo but are on other sites. Has anyone watched the program "How To Catch A Predator"? Those guys actually meet up with children! That is a far worse offence, in my eyes...

    I'm not condoning what he did, nor do I support, like or encourage paedophiles; he's a sick man. Better make that clear! I'm not sticking up for this paedophile - I'm supporting the actions of the court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munex View Post
    Most people seem to think 3 years is too short - I still disagree. Three years is a very long time. It's easy to say "just three years!?", but when you think about it - think of life in your own experience - three years takes a long time to pass (well, it takes exactly three years, to be precise), especially when you're in a prison.[/B]
    And? this sounds to me like a pity plea for a man who took advantage of young children, and whilst I agree it is not as bad as touching children (which deserves life) three years is certainly too short - especially considering how soft our justice system is, a system where he will be met with a broadly comfortable life (warm single rooms, television provdied, good meals, console games, easy access to drugs and so on).

    It does tire me the way some people seem to care more about the welfare of the criminals as opposed to their victims whose lives they have made incredibly difficult or hard to deal with, not to mention the lives of those close to them (the parents for one example).
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    It does tire me the way some people seem to care more about the welfare of the criminals as opposed to their victims whose lives they have made incredibly difficult or hard to deal with, not to mention the lives of those close to them (the parents for one example).
    But with this mentality, why not lock every petty criminal up for life? Why not give them the death penalty? I'm only being rational with this case. It costs a lot of money to keep people locked up, and I think 3 years is enough money to be spent on him for the crime he did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munex View Post
    But with this mentality, why not lock every petty criminal up for life? Why not give them the death penalty? I'm only being rational with this case.
    I am being rational also in thinking that a man who took advantage of children sexually should be punished for a longer period of time (and more harshly, see post above) rather than the paltry period of three years in a soft prison. I don't know the ins and outs of this case in particular, but i'd suggest a minimum of 10 to 15 years for the lesser crimes that fit into this category.

    Quote Originally Posted by Munex
    It costs a lot of money to keep people locked up, and I think 3 years is enough money to be spent on him for the crime he did.
    It does, but that is something that could be drastically lowered if we stopped the justice system wasting money on 'rehabilitation' programmes (which do not work), providing illegal substances for prisoners, providing prisoners with entertainment and so on. And besides, law and order is one of the purposes of having a state as the state is there to provide the basics of law and order (protecting individual liberties) and national defence - if the state stopped trying to provide things it shouldn't be in the business of providing (aid, social programmes and cultural propaganda, state healthcare, state education and much more) then it would easily be able to afford and properly run a justice system as it is supposed to do.

    There are few things I want the state to do, but the things it ought to do (in this case punishment for a genuine crime) I want it to do properly and administer strong justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I am being rational also in thinking that a man who took advantage of children sexually should be punished for a longer period of time (and more harshly, see post above) rather than the paltry period of three years in a soft prison. I don't know the ins and outs of this case in particular, but i'd suggest a minimum of 10 to 15 years for the lesser crimes that fit into this category.
    Okay, but then you need to ask how young someone needs to be to merit 15 years in prison. In the UK, you can have sex at 16 - that is considered illegal in the USA. I was told by a friend the other day that the age of consent in Japan is 13! I'm sure other countries are even lower (although, I haven't done the research).

    I personally think 3 years is satisfactory, perhaps not a great sentence, but nonetheless, satisfactory. I wouldn't give him over 6 years for what he did.

    As for everything else you said, I agree with. Prisons need to be tough, not a pleasure.
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    He would have been caught sooner, had parents taken responsibility for supervising their children’s activities on the internet.

    Well done to whoever exposed him.
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