Porn to be opt-in in the UK

[David]

Even with the pirate bay shut down, there are still 1000's or torrent sites out there ahaha

exactly, some useful chap will just set up a proxy site for the most popular

[-:Undertaker:-]

I'm not sure if i've posted on this, but here goes;

To those who supported anti-freedom acts of legislation such as the minimum wage, 'paternity leave', the smoking ban, DNA databases, profiling at airports, random police stops on people in the street, 40-days without trial under 'terrorism charges', the European Arrest Warrant, CCTV, speed cameras, fox hunting ban, high taxes on cigarettes, anti-smoking campaigns and more - you deserve it for being a hypocrite, after all, what goes around comes around! now it is time for you to swallow some of your own medicine and have the state decide whats best for you like you believe with everybody else.

To those who didn't support any of the above (and i'm with you) and believe in freedom for other people as opposed to just themselves, it appears that yet again we're having our freedoms taken away from us by the state - so do remember it come election time when you're asked to put a cross next to Labour, the Conservatives or the Liberal Democrats.

[David]

so what happened

[A4R0N]

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Edited by efq (Forum Moderator): Please do not pointlessly post

[peteyt]

I'm not sure if i've posted on this, but here goes;

To those who supported anti-freedom acts of legislation such as the minimum wage, 'paternity leave', the smoking ban, DNA databases, profiling at airports, random police stops on people in the street, 40-days without trial under 'terrorism charges', the European Arrest Warrant, CCTV, speed cameras, fox hunting ban, high taxes on cigarettes, anti-smoking campaigns and more - you deserve it for being a hypocrite, after all, what goes around comes around! now it is time for you to swallow some of your own medicine and have the state decide whats best for you like you believe with everybody else.

To those who didn't support any of the above (and i'm with you) and believe in freedom for other people as opposed to just themselves, it appears that yet again we're having our freedoms taken away from us by the state - so do remember it come election time when you're asked to put a cross next to Labour, the Conservatives or the Liberal Democrats.

Sorry but I disagree that the minimum wage is a bad thing - most of what you point is a bad but the minimum wage prevents companies abusing people by being able to pay them far less than they are worth. Sadly stuff like this still happens abroad such as China in factories but at least here in the UK it works.

I think the porn idea is a bad one because it takes the responsibility away from the parents. Parents will like this but a lot of parents don't really understand the internet so rather than trying to understand and get to grips with it, looking at what their children use and preventing them, warning them about the bad stuff, they'd rather someone else does it. There are always work arounds to.

[Recursion]

I'm not sure if i've posted on this, but here goes;

To those who supported anti-freedom acts of legislation such as the minimum wage, 'paternity leave', the smoking ban, DNA databases, profiling at airports, random police stops on people in the street, 40-days without trial under 'terrorism charges', the European Arrest Warrant, CCTV, speed cameras, fox hunting ban, high taxes on cigarettes, anti-smoking campaigns and more - you deserve it for being a hypocrite, after all, what goes around comes around! now it is time for you to swallow some of your own medicine and have the state decide whats best for you like you believe with everybody else.

To those who didn't support any of the above (and i'm with you) and believe in freedom for other people as opposed to just themselves, it appears that yet again we're having our freedoms taken away from us by the state - so do remember it come election time when you're asked to put a cross next to Labour, the Conservatives or the Liberal Democrats.

I'm not going to write an essay because honestly, how you manage to compare those to porn is beyond me. The internet cannot be reliably censored in anyway, because of the way it works. Porn isn't harmful to people's health or lifestyles, if you don't want to see it you can get away from it and it doesn't endanger anyone's safety

For example, I don't want to walk in public places breathing in other idiots' cigarette smoke (let's face it, you'd have to be pretty stupid to smoke, in my opinion anyway) because it harms my health, yet if I don't want to see porn, I don't have to visit the website.

Stop being such a pedantic fool.

[xxMATTGxx]

so what happened

I'm not quite sure but the following was said in the Telegraph:

Parents should be the first to take responsibility for stopping their children looking at internet pornography, the new Culture Secretary has said.

Maria Miller said calls demanding internet companies block access to hardcore online porn as a default setting would be considered by the Government.

But she emphasised that ''first and foremost'' parents must ensure their children and using the internet safely.

''I think responsibility is very strongly with parents to make sure that they really understand how their children are using the internet...to make sure they are safe,'' the MP said.

In an interview with The Sunday Times, Mrs Miller said there could be a role for the government in giving advice to parents on devices such as parental blocks on their home computers and similar software.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...Secretary.html

I'm not going to write an essay because honestly, how you manage to compare those to porn is beyond me. The internet cannot be reliably censored in anyway, because of the way it works. Porn isn't harmful to people's health or lifestyles, if you don't want to see it you can get away from it and it doesn't endanger anyone's safety

For example, I don't want to walk in public places breathing in other idiots' cigarette smoke (let's face it, you'd have to be pretty stupid to smoke, in my opinion anyway) because it harms my health, yet if I don't want to see porn, I don't have to visit the website.

Stop being such a pedantic fool.

Waits for him to link to his many youtube videos that say the smoke doesn't actually harm anyone but agreed.

[Tomm]

There is no point even trying to speak sense to him, hence I never even bothered to reply.

I'm not going to write an essay because honestly, how you manage to compare those to porn is beyond me. The internet cannot be reliably censored in anyway, because of the way it works. Porn isn't harmful to people's health or lifestyles, if you don't want to see it you can get away from it and it doesn't endanger anyone's safety

For example, I don't want to walk in public places breathing in other idiots' cigarette smoke (let's face it, you'd have to be pretty stupid to smoke, in my opinion anyway) because it harms my health, yet if I don't want to see porn, I don't have to visit the website.

Stop being such a pedantic fool.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Sorry but I disagree that the minimum wage is a bad thing - most of what you point is a bad but the minimum wage prevents companies abusing people by being able to pay them far less than they are worth. Sadly stuff like this still happens abroad such as China in factories but at least here in the UK it works.

I think the porn idea is a bad one because it takes the responsibility away from the parents. Parents will like this but a lot of parents don't really understand the internet so rather than trying to understand and get to grips with it, looking at what their children use and preventing them, warning them about the bad stuff, they'd rather someone else does it. There are always work arounds to.

I don't think you quite understand the logic here, the logic is that you are telling business and individuals what to pay other people and ensuring they do so by force - whether you think it to be a good thing or not is irrelvent, just as in this case with online porn - the British Government here has decided that it is best for you and me to have controls on porn concerning the internet.

And thats that, they've decided whats best for you - just as you deem it fit to decide what is best for others even if they disagree. You have been served some humble pie, as they say.

I'm not going to write an essay because honestly, how you manage to compare those to porn is beyond me. The internet cannot be reliably censored in anyway, because of the way it works. Porn isn't harmful to people's health or lifestyles, if you don't want to see it you can get away from it and it doesn't endanger anyone's safety

For example, I don't want to walk in public places breathing in other idiots' cigarette smoke (let's face it, you'd have to be pretty stupid to smoke, in my opinion anyway) because it harms my health, yet if I don't want to see porn, I don't have to visit the website.

Stop being such a pedantic fool.

I've never come across anybody 'blowing' smoke in the faces of other people, maybe because it's usually just a figment of the imagination by those (such as yourself) who have an irrational anti-smoke agenda to fight. And you've just proven my point again, you think you know what is best for other people just as the government and others think they know what is best for you concerning online porn.

I love how i've wound you all up by suggesting that actually, people who use the state to order other people around actually deserve to be ordered around themselves once in a while.

(let's face it, you'd have to be pretty stupid to smoke, in my opinion anyway) because it harms my health

No it doesn't [passive smoking], do some research and don't believe everything you hear in the mainstream media... you fool.

There is no point even trying to speak sense to him, hence I never even bothered to reply.

I don't think you have ever held a debate with me, and if you have, it obviously wasn't all that good as I don't recall it. But don't worry, fellow hypocrites have done the work for you (above) so we'll await their replies on what gives you lot the right to say what is good for other people but what doesn't give them the right to say what is good and bad for you.

I personally welcome it when people who feel they have the right to tell others what to do or how to act are told how to act or what to do themselves. Indeed, often I come across it most with people defending internet freedom who are all for freedom when it comes to their precious computer.... but they don't actually care for what freedom means when it comes to other examples in life.

Quite frankly, if you thought you could all have the state tell everybody else what to do by imposing your standards on others but leave you yourselves alone.... then you were all incredibly naive.

[Stephen]

What has him not ever having a debate with you got to do with what he said? I think everyone knows you on the forum as the mass debater who shoots **** out of his penis