Protocols not being followed

[lawrawrrr]

I believe that I actually answered why so I'm not sure what point you're making.

You said it was your decision and we couldn't do anything about it. Anyway this is a pointless argument as it's got nothing to do with the discussion we were having.

End of the day, managers don't need to discuss promotions with anyone below them, and are perfectly within their right to refuse to justify, in public or private to anyone who isn't a general manager.

[FlyingJesus]

If managers aren't free to manage then there is no point in appointing them in the first place

[Grig]

Do employers talk over promotions with all their staff in the real world? No. They should get the go ahead with AGMs (which we have to) and then MAYBE talk to other seniors (not necessary though).

I hate it when people do this. This is a fansite for a game run by teenagers, and not the real world. It's not the same thing at all.

You said it was your decision and we couldn't do anything about it. Anyway this is a pointless argument as it's got nothing to do with the discussion we were having.

End of the day, managers don't need to discuss promotions with anyone below them, and are perfectly within their right to refuse to justify, in public or private to anyone who isn't a general manager.

Transparency is always best as a manager. You are in this position to take flack for the good or bad and if you can't then you shouldn't be in this position. I would always be more than happy to go around and justify the move with good reasons and in turn those who criticize one will be happy as well.

Sure, I agree they don't have to, but sometimes it's best to when there is massive disagreement.

[GommeInc]

If managers aren't free to manage then there is no point in appointing them in the first place

I don't think that's the problem for once in this case The problem seems to be a lack of communication, as per.

I'm still not sure why a fan site has to keep menial things like promotions secret from their staff, when not even huge organisations practice this. They usually announce that promotions are on the cards in their respective departments and staff can see the process played out because 1) It effects them. 2) They're going to know eventually anyway, and; 3) It's a fan site, constant communication is incredibly important with a volunteers based set-up (and 4 but not necessarily important - they can be on their best behaviour as it could be them).

I hate it when people do this. This is a fansite for a game run by teenagers, and not the real world. It's not the same thing at all.

Transparency is always best as a manager. You are in this position to take flack for the good or bad and if you can't then you shouldn't be in this position. I would always be more than happy to go around and justify the move with good reasons and in turn those who criticize one will be happy as well.

Sure, I agree they don't have to, but sometimes it's best to when there is massive disagreement.

Completely agreed. I dread to think what some of the people on here would be like if they worked in a real business and were a manager, they would be sacked within a couple of days if they ever worked for a company where inter-departmental communications are important (i.e. most of them).

Only talking to General Management creates a "them and us" attitude, and if you're doing that you may as well go the full distance, stick your middle finger up at bottom-level volunteers and tell them to go shove themselves. Hardly necessarily and completely unwanted in a real world volunteer business, let alone a tiny fan site :/

[Foregetfuhl]

The department were well aware people were going up. It was made blindingly obvious and has been talked about a number of times. I just couldn't actually tell them WHO was going up.

[Andii]

The department were well aware people were going up. It was made blindingly obvious and has been talked about a number of times. I just couldn't actually tell them WHO was going up.

Yea but look were that got this going, if staff in the department are having a problem then as a manager you should be there to state the facts and tell them exactly why to help them understand, as a manager you shoul look after your staff,

i remember when I was a hxl trialist and jess was manager and I got safety banned so couldn't dj tried to tell her but she ignored it and gave me a warning for not doing any slots, as a manager she should have picked up on that. Managers need to look after their staff kapow woop woop lets party

[Foregetfuhl]

Yea but look were that got this going, if staff in the department are having a problem then as a manager you should be there to state the facts and tell them exactly why to help them understand, as a manager you shoul look after your staff,

i remember when I was a hxl trialist and jess was manager and I got safety banned so couldn't dj tried to tell her but she ignored it and gave me a warning for not doing any slots, as a manager she should have picked up on that. Managers need to look after their staff kapow woop woop lets party

I do look after my staff? When has that ever come out that I don't? Unlike previous managers I actually speak to many members of my staff everyday just to make sure they are alright?

[Andii]

I do look after my staff? When has that ever come out that I don't? Unlike previous managers I actually speak to many members of my staff everyday just to make sure they are alright?

i hate writing things lol can never seem to say how im thinking it

i meant like explain to them why this person was chosen and stuff lol not like how they are doing i know you are kind and nice and talk to people by asking them how they are ive seen it you dont need to improve on that

[Grig]

I remember Adzeh used to ask who should be promoted. I'm all for openess. Even though it may seem unconventional nowadays. I love being open, makes staff feel part of the decision making process etc. Of course management will have the last say etc.