Once Upon a Time

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@Red; i just remembered they couldnt get the rights to use peter pan but would that have included captain hook in it which they obviously have the rights for now so will have the rights to use peter pan?

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These dwarves aren't very short

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OK am finally up to date and I will try to cover some of the points that have been raised and not dealt with but obv I'm not one of the writers so I don't know all of it

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why was only that corner of the land frozen and not touched by the curse? Is the safe haven place going to be neverland?

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Probably something to do with Cora's presence, or maybe just a safety net that Rumple put in because he felt like it. I think writing Neverland into the plot might make it a bit difficult to keep up with time shifts and I can't see it as a safe place considering Hook can go in and out of it whenever he wants and one assumes the Hatter and other people with dimensional tools can too, and it's definitely not safe from magic by its nature.

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really starting to dislike rumple in both lands, can't believe he killed Milah for leaving their son cause that's logical? then he goes and leaves baelfire to defend for himself without a mother and father? fool.

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Awww I like him and can sympathise because of the whole coward thing, getting told that he's worth nothing if he isn't willing to give up his life which is ridiculous and pretty much the cause of nearly all male suffering in the universe but YEAH shouldn't have killed her, I thought he'd take the hand off Hook and turn her into a mermaid because that would tie in with the Neverland theme and still force them to be separated but nvm

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ew I hope hook isn't in love with her tho cause I want him to get with emma WHICH WILL NEVER HAPPEN. then again I want her with Jefferson too which won't happen either.

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In love with who? He was in love with Milah but she's obv dead now so that isn't a problem either way I don't want any of the hotties getting with Emma because she is just a completely unlikeable character in my opinion, they can do better like having a threeway with Red

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Why can't there be a single man?!

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Whale, Leeroy, Archie, Marco, Jefferson, Pinocchio...

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Wonder why he was a womaniser tho lol & if hook and bael both have beans to a new land (which was the reason tthey didn't go to storybrooke right?) then I wonder if they're in the same place and bael is Peter Pan? then that would mean he can't be Henry's father. I just wanna find bael!!

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Baelfire didn't go to Storybrooke because he'd already been thrown into our world lonnnnng before, he almost definitely isn't Peter Pan because unless his deportation to our world happened during our Victorian era the story doesn't fit, and he wouldn't have had the time or the inclination to try finding his way back to a magic world (which Neverland definitely is, meaning Neverland can't be the place he went to, at least to start with) and by then all the other characters would have died of old age. No idea why Whale is a womaniser in our world, guessing he's more than just the one character that he's been named as - since Frankenstein needs body parts maybe he's also Jack The Ripper or something idk that would be a bit dark for this show I think

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Anyone else really warming to Regina? I really want her to be redeemed ! Loved seeing how she turned into the evil queen. I wonder when she found out, that she had been manipulated by them. Her scenes with Daniel were really touching, but I wish they would of had longer together. Also loved seeing Jefferson in his younger days. Wondering now who is Dr. Whales brother is. So many wizard of oz references too!

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Yessssss I love Regina have from the start pretty much though, am totes on her side about the whole Snow White thing what a brat. Don't think Whale's brother will be anyone of importance since his existence is only to give Whale the passionate drive for medical science rather than just having no backstory, but YES definitely picked up on some Oz references especially with "we're off to see the wizard" etc, lovesit

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I also think she became the queen of hearts when she was pushed through the mirror.

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Definitely yeah, was the first thing that came to mind when the mirror was introduced! And explains the whole story of her going there to get her dad

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i don't understand how in his land he's famous for practising a 'different' kind of magic when he's never actually been able to bring anyone back from the dead rofl

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Yes he has that's what happens at the end of the ep, and when he's dealing with Rumple&co didn't he say that it did work before but with bad results (which I assume is what we've seen the preface of)? Even without that Dr Frankenstein in the story was a famous surgeon etc even without bringing people to life

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rumples has been from the very start though and must be quite old so if bael went to the real world he'd be old too.

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Mmmmmm I guess because it seems that Rumpface trained Cora even before Regina came along but that does kinda mean that he did absolutely nothing of importance for like 100 years lol so yeah really the only way Baelfire would still be alive is if he DID go to Neverland so maybe the whole Victorian thing does work idk seems a bit of a cop-out though espesh since if Rumple had known that he wasn't going to age he'd have looked for that world not the one without magic :S:S

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Aww yea tom. We hadn't had hook introduced yet but it seems like it is just the enchanted forest. And yea Jen! I didn't know they hadn't the rights for peter pan, but if they have hook, then they have Peter.

Omfg Tallahasse was amazing dkjfdkfd
August is a bit of a **** ;/ I can't believe he broke emma's heart and now she has all these trust issues She went to prison and then he stole her money and hopped off to Phuket. He deserved to be a bloody wooden man.
At least we know the origin of the postcard but what was in the typewriter box and why did Neal believe him so quickly?
Also I'm glad that Neal isn't really such a bad guy, because if he is Bae, I didn't want him to have changed his personality.
Aurora's and Henry's nightmare was weird. The red made me think of Cora/Queen of Hearts but Aurora seen a boy and Henry a girl. So maybe they were meeting? Charming lighting the candle was so cute though
Loved Snow's Mulan tackle and that moment between Emma/Snow, when she came down the beanstalk.
and Hook has such swagger. Loved him! Reminds me a bit of Jack Sparrow and he has a lot of chemistry with emma. Can just imagine a love triangle between emma, hook, and neal/bae/peterpan/

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In love with who? He was in love with Milah but she's obv dead now so that isn't a problem either way I don't want any of the hotties getting with Emma because she is just a completely unlikeable character in my opinion, they can do better like having a threeway with Red

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he didnt seem MADLY in love with her it was like omg shes dead ok neverland. i really like emma.

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Whale, Leeroy, Archie, Marco, Jefferson, Pinocchio...

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sorry, *hot single men. besides, leeroy spoke about his love and jefferson most likely has alice or whoever grace's mother is. i guess the whole concept of the drama is love always wins, love is the most powerful magic etc so suppose everyone has to have one lol

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Yessssss I love Regina have from the start pretty much though, am totes on her side about the whole Snow White thing what a brat. Don't think Whale's brother will be anyone of importance since his existence is only to give Whale the passionate drive for medical science rather than just having no backstory, but YES definitely picked up on some Oz references especially with "we're off to see the wizard" etc, lovesit

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i know youre prob joking bout the snow thing cause it wasn't her fault but regina killed graham and even took her own father's heart not to mention she had grahams heart so was controlling his life and making him have sex with her etc.... yeah i sympathise with her sometimes but really don't want to, plus she wanted to learn magic.

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Mmmmmm I guess because it seems that Rumpface trained Cora even before Regina came along but that does kinda mean that he did absolutely nothing of importance for like 100 years lol so yeah really the only way Baelfire would still be alive is if he DID go to Neverland so maybe the whole Victorian thing does work idk seems a bit of a cop-out though espesh since if Rumple had known that he wasn't going to age he'd have looked for that world not the one without magic :S:S

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don't you think it's weird though that cora is the daughter of a MILLER (which ties into the rumplestiltskin original story) ?? so still curious as to how he knows cora and regina, DIDN'T REGINA THINK TO EXPLORE THAT ISSUE FIRST?

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Aww yea tom. We hadn't had hook introduced yet but it seems like it is just the enchanted forest. And yea Jen! I didn't know they hadn't the rights for peter pan, but if they have hook, then they have Peter.

Omfg Tallahasse was amazing dkjfdkfd
August is a bit of a **** ;/ I can't believe he broke emma's heart and now she has all these trust issues She went to prison and then he stole her money and hopped off to Phuket. He deserved to be a bloody wooden man.
At least we know the origin of the postcard but what was in the typewriter box and why did Neal believe him so quickly?
Also I'm glad that Neal isn't really such a bad guy, because if he is Bae, I didn't want him to have changed his personality.
Aurora's and Henry's nightmare was weird. The red made me think of Cora/Queen of Hearts but Aurora seen a boy and Henry a girl. So maybe they were meeting? Charming lighting the candle was so cute though
Loved Snow's Mulan tackle and that moment between Emma/Snow, when she came down the beanstalk.
and Hook has such swagger. Loved him! Reminds me a bit of Jack Sparrow and he has a lot of chemistry with emma. Can just imagine a love triangle between emma, hook, and neal/bae/peterpan/

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lol neal seems all sleazy at the beginning wjhgjkhg and the whole "i stole a stolen car" ehh... didn't like that scene. although throughout you can see how naive emma is with love and so trusting and you can see how and why she's changed so much
LOL the giant scene i was all prepared to be freaked the **** out of then i was like lmao really. hes not scary
lolololol bloody hell hook what are u doing to emma i don't see much chemistry coming from her lol but idk if thats how shes supposed to act cause of her trust issues but meh.
the whole thing makes me think neal isn't baelfire now because i don't think he'd be randomly messing around with a girl but then again how did he believe august so quickly and the whole do you believe in magic etc. i was thinking it was maybe a portal or something magical he showed but dunno

**** THE GIANTS AWAKE OMG OMG IM SCARED
oh i just knew he'd take it :@
lmfao the giant "kill me" you r not v.scary omg plus his trap? if he trapped a human in that they'd most likely be able to get through the holes lol
HEY I FELT SORRY FOR U THERE GIANT
oh ok
EMMA WHY WHY what if hooks a good guy but will now become bitter and vengeful lol so hopefully hes a baddy.
ah well quite a good episode. just want emma snow etc back to storybrooke missing everyone together lol

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Really good episode although glasses to make someone look younger and naive. really? is that the best they could do

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don't you think it's weird though that cora is the daughter of a MILLER (which ties into the rumplestiltskin original story) ?? so still curious as to how he knows cora and regina, DIDN'T REGINA THINK TO EXPLORE THAT ISSUE FIRST?

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lol neal seems all sleazy at the beginning wjhgjkhg and the whole "i stole a stolen car" ehh... didn't like that scene. although throughout you can see how naive emma is with love and so trusting and you can see how and why she's changed so much
LOL the giant scene i was all prepared to be freaked the **** out of then i was like lmao really. hes not scary
lolololol bloody hell hook what are u doing to emma i don't see much chemistry coming from her lol but idk if thats how shes supposed to act cause of her trust issues but meh.
the whole thing makes me think neal isn't baelfire now because i don't think he'd be randomly messing around with a girl but then again how did he believe august so quickly and the whole do you believe in magic etc. i was thinking it was maybe a portal or something magical he showed but dunno

**** THE GIANTS AWAKE OMG OMG IM SCARED
oh i just knew he'd take it :@
lmfao the giant "kill me" you r not v.scary omg plus his trap? if he trapped a human in that they'd most likely be able to get through the holes lol
HEY I FELT SORRY FOR U THERE GIANT
oh ok
EMMA WHY WHY what if hooks a good guy but will now become bitter and vengeful lol so hopefully hes a baddy.
ah well quite a good episode. just want emma snow etc back to storybrooke missing everyone together lol

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They have already said that Cora is the miller's daughter from the Rumple story, and I think we are going to see that soon!
Yea maybe he isn't Bae but I don't think he is from our world. Still could be peter pan and we had Emmas little Neverland reference in the motel. hehe You would think if he was Bae, after August told him about the curse, he would want to go find his father. hmmm Also Mulan's poppy dust seems to be another reference to Oz. So excited for that.

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he didnt seem MADLY in love with her it was like omg shes dead ok neverland. i really like emma.

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Yeah but he only went to Neverland so he'd have enough time to come up with a good revenge plan, literally his entire action was based on Milah's death

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i know youre prob joking bout the snow thing cause it wasn't her fault but regina killed graham and even took her own father's heart not to mention she had grahams heart so was controlling his life and making him have sex with her etc.... yeah i sympathise with her sometimes but really don't want to, plus she wanted to learn magic.

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No it was definitely Snow's fault, she broke her promise and told Cora about Daniel which is what set off the entire chain of events leading up to Regina being evil, she only wanted to learn magic once she realised that without it she couldn't get her own back on Snow

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LOL the giant scene i was all prepared to be freaked the **** out of then i was like lmao really. hes not scary

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Eurgh the whole giant thing was STUPID if 2 random people can knock out a giant with a bit of dust how did entire armies not manage to do him in and he's meant to be the most powerful of them all :S:S:S don't think they should have shown him as being that weak it didn't fit right at all

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EMMA WHY WHY what if hooks a good guy but will now become bitter and vengeful lol so hopefully hes a baddy.

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Doesn't matter if he's good or bad Emma is still gonna be the boring predictable "I got messed over once and now I have no emotions" template character who somehow manages to have no depth even with hours of backstory. But yeah he'd be better as a villain, there needs to be someone bad who isn't a witch/wizard

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Yea maybe he isn't Bae but I don't think he is from our world. Still could be peter pan and we had Emmas little Neverland reference in the motel. hehe You would think if he was Bae, after August told him about the curse, he would want to go find his father.

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Mmmm def don't think he's native to our world but like you said if he's Baelfire he'd want to be more involved with the fairytale people and not just run to Canada. If he is Peter Pan that could be fun when Hook gets back

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episode 7 child of the moon

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where did snows beauty spot come from... lol
billy was so cute why did spencer have to kill him i wonder what hes gonna do next
ah love how theyre linking how EVERY person under a sleeping spell has these dreams, hope it's significant. OH SO THEY WERE SEEING EACH OTHER. dk why i didn't think of that. so henrys gonna get into her dreams and guide her or something?
why are all the mums ending up to be *******.. :/ cora, milah, anita etc
belle was annoying me, yeah ruby has loads of good qualities but shes still killed so why take the risk guys!!
ruby and her mum part was so sad how much more people will ruby kill and not even her own fault. i wouldn't be able to live with myself, poor thing

episode 8 preview into the deep

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it says 2 weeks from tonight but was posted yday. hope its not 2 weeks to wait!!



so yeah the dreams are gonna be their way home, wonder if gold thought about that
n wtf is that zombies looool yay cora is back, hope hook is too..

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episode 7 child of the moon

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where did snows beauty spot come from... lol
billy was so cute why did spencer have to kill him i wonder what hes gonna do next
ah love how theyre linking how EVERY person under a sleeping spell has these dreams, hope it's significant. OH SO THEY WERE SEEING EACH OTHER. dk why i didn't think of that. so henrys gonna get into her dreams and guide her or something?
why are all the mums ending up to be *******.. :/ cora, milah, anita etc
belle was annoying me, yeah ruby has loads of good qualities but shes still killed so why take the risk guys!!
ruby and her mum part was so sad how much more people will ruby kill and not even her own fault. i wouldn't be able to live with myself, poor thing

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it says 2 weeks from tonight but was posted yday. hope its not 2 weeks to wait!!



so yeah the dreams are gonna be their way home, wonder if gold thought about that
n wtf is that zombies looool yay cora is back, hope hook is too..

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I picked up that they were seeing each other. hehe Best bit for me this week was the whole dream. I am so glad they had it now instead of dragging it out. Love the preview for next week. Can't wait to see them both connecting through this other world. And yea if snow wasn't like a positive mother figure, there would just be all these crap ones. Poor charming when he destroyed the hat and aw I loved that Rumple helped henry without charging a price.