GAZA CEASEFIRE

[Eric]

Ceasefire? Probably won't last long before they start attacking each other again.

[wixard]

Never said it did. Grig assumed I looked at BBC news and left it at that.

---------- Post added 22-11-2012 at 10:40 AM ----------

I also actually don't see how my post makes me brainwashed. I only said every country has the right to defend themselves - Which they do... But whatever.

the bus story was ridiculous and shouldn't be anything to go by. Israel is the aggressor in this conflict

[xxMATTGxx]

Doesn't make the Hamas any better than Israel lmao.

[wixard]

what because their military leaders death was videoed and posted online whilst they were also being threatened and you expect them not to react... okay then

[xxMATTGxx]

what because their military leaders death was videoed and posted online whilst they were also being threatened and you expect them not to react... okay then

Hamas are hardly innocent let's be honest here. I'm not saying Israel is either but yeah.

[DaveTaylor]

First of all the missles Hamas use are not Home made, they are supplied by Iran, if you want evidence of this there is loads online since this conflict began. Mainly the fijar-5 rocket. Second of all Hamas wants to get rid of Israel completely, it does not see it at all, as with Israel they have no problem with there being a Palestine, they just want it peaceful. People claim Israel are the terrorists in this, I don't see how considering the fact that Hamas use the public as human shields, Israel can only pinpoint locations with terrorists in them and can't sadly make the bomb hurt only the people who are terrorists. Israel have already said that this mission was a failure due to the amount of people hurt, that's not what they want.

The act of terrorism was from Hamas, shooting 1500+ rockets over with the 100% aim of killing innocent people who are general public. IF israel really wanted to hurt the public, it wouldn't be difficult, they could have quite easily bombarded all locations and not stopped over at least 10-15 air raids whilst the public where moving. There are also several images online showing why Hamas do not need to fire from Gaza City as they have plenty of land they can use in the South that is open and free to fire from. The problem will this is there will always be more causalities on the Gaza side of things because of the difference on technology and army etc. I just want you too ask you a question here, lets say Iron Dome hadn't managed to get those 500+ rockets and they actually landed on the houses they were on purposely aimed for, do you really think the injury toll would have been the same? I certainly do not, considering it is after all 200lb war head. People are allowed their own opinions, do not get me wrong, Israel aren't always right, but when you have a group of people wanting to rid you from the world and aim at people who are just living their daily life, you defend in every way you can, and before someone goes people of Gaza were going about their daily life, several attempts where made to move them on whilst operations were going on leaflets, aid trucks crossing the bordering etc.

---------- Post added 22-11-2012 at 07:10 PM ----------

Here is a photo that shows evidence of how hard it is for Israel not to hit the public when they do not listen to Israel requesting them too move on:


Another one here as people claim Gaza is the most densely populated place in the world, it's horse ****:

[FlyingJesus]

If people want to talk about who shot first let's talk about how Israel is an illegal nation placed on stolen land that's only survived because America arms and finances them

[DaveTaylor]

If people want to talk about who shot first let's talk about how Israel is an illegal nation placed on stolen land that's only survived because America arms and finances them

I always love this dig, because there is nothing illegal about it... the land was declared for Israel..... Palestine was formed between the 1914-1918 but it was never actually declared land of Palestine, look up the British Mandate if you want too follow all this up. It was british owned, and then when the British pulled out it became Israel, the British declared the land as "Palestine" but it was never their land, it was british. Also American arms, a lot of the weaponary is Israeli designed and made, and if you want to question the finance stuff, all I need to say is Intel processors and medicine for South Africa.

[-:Undertaker:-]

If people want to talk about who shot first let's talk about how Israel is an illegal nation placed on stolen land that's only survived because America arms and finances them

Whether it was illegal or not or right or wrong, it's happened (history) just as the Normans invaded England and the Spanish invaded the Inca Empire.

But as for the financing, America also finances (much more) the enemies of Israel, indeed Israel is entirely self sufficent nowadays.

[FlyingJesus]

Let's not ever support the freedom of anyone since the attacks of their oppressors have happened in history