Ken Clarke brands UKIP 'clowns'

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UKIP don't appear to be doing it in an insensible manner - some might consider it a bit extreme (I believe they wanted a 5 year freeze on emigration into the UK except for exceptional circumstances) compared to what we have at the moment, but they seem to be the only party trying to challenge the issue in a decent manner. Considering the situation has not improved under the coalition or the former labour party.



Most Britons simply cannot afford to emigrate to another country to uptake a job though. I'm not aware how 'generous' the benefits system is in other European Countries, but I would imagine it's much easier to gain access to benefits over here if you have only recently emigrated & are unemployed, compared to other countries in the EU.



I am confused where you are going with this point?

I don't think people actually realise how hard it is for someone from a Non-EU country to get a job here now? The companies have to advertise the job position here for several months through various reputable advertising agencies. They then have to conduct interviews and then prove to the government that they were unable to find someone good enough and they wish to bring in XYZ from so and so country as they are qualified. After this, it is very hard for the XYZ person to gain a permanent residence in this country due to changes in time lengths of visas.
So yes, the government is doing something about immigration and only specialised and required persons can get in the country.

The UK has severely made the benefits system strict by rolling out new limits, I believe it is just the start of the end of benefits.

In regards to Education at Scotland - I am saying that people constantly moan about same leave EU etc crap, but not about stuff which actually is stupid and outrageous (and costs taxpayers a lot of money) such as a English student having to pay for education in Scotland while someone from Sweden can get it for free in Scotland.

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I believe a famous writer once said that politicians are all just clowns, so if anything admitting UKIP are a bunch of clowns means they are true politicians Ken Clarke MP can talk though, his party and Labour are a bunch of clowns too. Labour do exactly what you've claimed UKIP do - demand attention but not have any policies of their own to counter with.

Also, he must be worried about UKIP if he's taken to publicly scorning them. If they weren't a threat he wouldn't talk. It's quite pathetic really, a very Labour thing to do

Ed Miliband is a moron. No doubt about it.

[GommeInc]

Ed Miliband is a moron. No doubt about it.

So are the other party leaders and their members, it's not that surprising these days to see monkeys throwing their faeces around Throwing stones in glass houses doesn't solve the problem, although it is quite entertaining from the electorate position.

[Chippiewill]

Not one attack by the Tories this week has been based on policy. Not one. As for the son of Farage, I couldn't care less lmao just as I couldn't care less that Gordon Brown had one working eye, that Margaret Thatcher was a woman, that Edward Heath was most likely gay etc etc.

We unfortunately live in a Democracy and the electorate do care.

[GommeInc]

We unfortunately live in a Democracy and the electorate do care.

Farage's son is of little to no importance, and it seems the media are trying to make a story out of something no one really should care about, unless Farage's son is the policy maker of UKIP or Culture Secretary?

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Farage's son is of little to no importance, and it seems the media are trying to make a story out of something no one really should care about, unless Farage's son is the policy maker of UKIP or Culture Secretary?

The future newly created role of Alcohol Minister.

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We unfortunately live in a Democracy and the electorate do care.

I don't think they do actually, I mean do you think people care about the fact Ed Miliband has a nasal voice or Farages son was involved in an incident? I certainly don't. On the news and in the political bubble these sort of stories seem to be plastered all over the screens and pages - which is maybe a reason why voting levels are falling year on year, because there's no actual differences between the parties so all that ends up being reported is worthless *** for tat. Who John Major has been sleeping with has never interested me and those sorts of things don't interest me now either.

It shows with the fact UKIP are picking up voters who haven't bothered to vote in years - because there's now an actual choice between more EU, more mass immigration, more comprehensive education or less EU, controlled immigration and a German-styled education system with grammar schools.

[Chippiewill]

Farage's son is of little to no importance, and it seems the media are trying to make a story out of something no one really should care about, unless Farage's son is the policy maker of UKIP or Culture Secretary?

The behaviour of Farage's son reflects not only the parenting skills of Farage (Which the electorate will believe is somehow related to his ability to run a country) but also reflects on the behaviour of Farage himself (Apples do not fall far from the tree).

Whilst I agree it is entirely irrelevant, we should not give the general electorate more credit than they're due.

[GommeInc]

The behaviour of Farage's son reflects not only the parenting skills of Farage (Which the electorate will believe is somehow related to his ability to run a country) but also reflects on the behaviour of Farage himself (Apples do not fall far from the tree).

Whilst I agree it is entirely irrelevant, we should not give the general electorate more credit than they're due.

Hmm, I suppose to some extent that is true. Cameron got so much abuse over leaving his daughter behind in a pub. Give her about 15-20 years and she might be the new version of Farage's son.

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The behaviour of Farage's son reflects not only the parenting skills of Farage (Which the electorate will believe is somehow related to his ability to run a country) but also reflects on the behaviour of Farage himself (Apples do not fall far from the tree).

Whilst I agree it is entirely irrelevant, we should not give the general electorate more credit than they're due.

I hope your children are wonderful little darlings when they grow up with no faults or stupidity when drunken. I really do.

Hmm, I suppose to some extent that is true. Cameron got so much abuse over leaving his daughter behind in a pub. Give her about 15-20 years and she might be the new version of Farage's son.

I think there's rather a difference between a father leaving a small child behind in a pub (which I happen to think is an innocent mistake anyway and totally irrelevent to Cameron being PM, as much as I dislike him) and a 20-something year old independent man being disorderly on a night out.

[Chippiewill]

I hope your children are wonderful little darlings when they grow up with no faults or stupidity when drunken. I really do.

This is entirely independent of my own beliefs, I agree that this ought not to reflect on Farage's capability at all and I do not believe it does, but there are a ton of people who whatever reason do.