What is your view on cannabis?

[velvet]

Cannot believe coed is being used as a source - surely even worse than quoting the Daily Mail...

Also, it may be able to reduce headaches - but according to the NHS it can also cause them (and from experience of questions asked whilst at hospital appointments, this certainly seems to be the case). I know who I would listen to - NHS or COED lol.

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But once again, I shall go back to Kardan's point. Shall we start selling morphine in shops too?

the NHS doesn't have any controlled research on cannabis as you're not allowed to do it in the UK, so i wouldn't trust their source.
they can only go by what people have said, and as cannabis is illegal it's often sold by shady people who cut it with other things to push the weight up, the headaches could have been caused by that.

i personally haven't had a headache in months and i smoke about 2 ounces of cannabis a month.


as for the morphine point, again, you can't compare the two.
morphine is a concentrated extraction from the opiate poppy, weed is the WHOLE plant, the psychoactive component, THC, is only a fraction of the cannabinoids in marijuana.

you can grow AS MANY opiate poppies as you like in the UK, as soon as you germinate a seed of cannabis, you risk prison time.

[AgnesIO]

the NHS doesn't have any controlled research on cannabis as you're not allowed to do it in the UK, so i wouldn't trust their source.
they can only go by what people have said, and as cannabis is illegal it's often sold by shady people who cut it with other things to push the weight up, the headaches could have been caused by that.

i personally haven't had a headache in months and i smoke about 2 ounces of cannabis a month.


as for the morphine point, again, you can't compare the two.
morphine is a concentrated extraction from the opiate poppy, weed is the WHOLE plant, the psychoactive component, THC, is only a fraction of the cannabinoids in marijuana.

you can grow AS MANY opiate poppies as you like, as soon as you germinate a seed of cannabis, you risk prison time.

You can compare the two...

If you are talking about medical substances that stop certain things, then they can be compared. It is ridiculous to suggest that you can't - just seems to be a way to get out of a very fair point.

How the two are made doesn't matter - they are both used for medical reasons, but neither should really be consumed otherwise.

[Special]

I would ban cigarettes if I could, don't worry But something about businesses collapsing, people losing jobs and the economy being destroyed or something like that

So if cannabis isn't dangerous, why is it illegal? And if it is legalised, does that mean kids can smoke it?

good question, personally i believe it's because anyone can grow it and it would cost the government a lot of money to monitor people growing it themselfs for cheaper, if it were to be legalized i'm sure they'd write up laws to consider minors

And yet again you still haven't replied to an extremely good point by Kardan here; http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...00#post7897700

yet again? it's the only one i've missed and it's because i was replying elsewhere mr. hypocrite

and no, we shouldn't give out morphine freely, it's much stronger than cannabis and is used for totally different illness

cannabis uses: Examples of what medical marijuana is used for include AIDS, cancer, ADHD, multiple sclerosis, nausea resulting from chemotherapy, Crohn's disease, glaucoma, epilepsy, insomnia, migraines, arthritis and lack of appetite

morphone uses: Besides relieving pain, it impairs mental and physical performance, relieves fear and anxiety, and produces euphoria. It also decreases hunger, inhibits the cough reflex, produces constipation, and usually reduces the sex drive; in women it may interfere with the menstrual cycle.

see http://www.infoplease.com/encycloped...ects-uses.html

Also you can quote the illnesses as frequently as you like. Now what percentage of the global population suffer from one of those illnesses? I bet the vast majority don't suffer from them. And before you try it, Cannabis SUPPOSEDLY helps brain cancer - before you try and tell me it helps every cancer sufferer. Also, as a migraine sufferer I can tell you that smoke can actually cause migraines too...

it's irrelevant what the exact percentage is, it's general knowledge that most of the illness treated by cannabis are common, or didn't you know that?

ohhh so now you've changed your mind to that it helps cancer and not causes it? lol!

are you kidding me? it's the THC in cannabis that cures migraines not the smoke, you're mistaking cannabis smoke for other types of smoke (indicate which?)

[velvet]

You can compare the two...

If you are talking about medical substances that stop certain things, then they can be compared. It is ridiculous to suggest that you can't - just seems to be a way to get out of a very fair point.

How the two are made doesn't matter - they are both used for medical reasons, but neither should really be consumed otherwise.

sorry but you're impossible lol. read my post again.

MORPHINE IS A CONCENTRATED SUBSTANCE, WEED IS THE WHOLE PLANT

OPIATE POPPY = / = WEED
LEGAL TO GROW - ILLEGAL TO GROW



there you go.

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gunna need a joint if marketing replies to another one of my posts with something i've already explained lmao

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This is a debateable point as previously said, there's just as many studies, articles and reports on your point of view as there is on my point of view, that cannabis smoke is more damaging than cigarette smoke.

(Le example: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7150274.stm)

So basically, neither of us can use that point, since scientists agree and disagree on it constantly, which probably means they're both just as bad as each other if anything.

Thing is, it probably would be banned from public places (but alas, what do you defy as a public place, smoking is currently banned from public places, but it's okay to smoke on the streets), but with the amount of people I smell smoking it on the streets anyway, when it's illegal, surely this number will only rise when people can get hold of it, legally?

i know what you mean, the point is with it being illegal it can't be properly studied >___>


i don't think it'd rise, really. if people want it, it's fairly easy to get hold of.

[AgnesIO]

good question, personally i believe it's because anyone can grow it and it would cost the government a lot of money to monitor people growing it themselfs for cheaper, if it were to be legalized i'm sure they'd write up laws to consider minors



it's irrelevant what the exact percentage is, it's general knowledge that most of the illness treated by cannabis are common, or didn't you know that?

ohhh so now you've changed your mind to that it helps cancer and not causes it? lol!

are you kidding me? it's the THC in cannabis that cures migraines not the smoke, you're mistaking cannabis smoke for other types of smoke (indicate which?)

And no, once again an excellent twisting of my words. "Cannabis SUPPOSEDLY helps brain cancer - before you try and tell me it helps every cancer sufferer."

I think even a coke taking fool can work out that supposedly means that it may/may not, and that I also evidently deny any belief in it helping cancer sufferers.

Absolutely idiotic, there are so many types of cancer it is untrue - would you go into a Teenage Cancer Trust ward and tell everyone there that they will beat cancer if they start smoking weed? Really?

And it may well be the THC, but SMOKE can cause migraines - so we are going to combat the migraines in one way, then cause them in another. Fantastic.

sorry but you're impossible lol. read my post again.

MORPHINE IS A CONCENTRATED SUBSTANCE, WEED IS THE WHOLE PLANT

OPIATE POPPY = / = WEED
LEGAL TO GROW ILLIGAL TO GROW



there you go.

But they are both used in medical practices, and have no other need to be used.

[Kardan]

On the subject of curing/causing cancer, doesn't everything cause/help prevent cancer? There's so many variables in life, that you could find an article for/against anything really.

For example:
Tomatos cause cancer: http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/qu...risk-of-cancer
Tomatos cures cancer: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...-tomatoes.html

[velvet]

also, i wouldn't source BBC articles, they're extremely biased considering they're the main UK news broadcaster. they wouldn't be shouting about the great benefits of something that is illegal.

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On the subject of curing/causing cancer, doesn't everything cause/help prevent cancer? There's so many variables in life, that you could find an article for/against anything really.

For example:
Tomatos cause cancer: http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/qu...risk-of-cancer
Tomatos cures cancer: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...-tomatoes.html

agree with this for the most part, but there's a hell of a lot in it with cannabis...

http://www.alternet.org/story/9257/pot_shrinks_tumors%3B_government_knew_in_'74

[Kardan]

i know what you mean, the point is with it being illegal it can't be properly studied >___>


i don't think it'd rise, really. if people want it, it's fairly easy to get hold of.

This part of the debate reminds me about the gun debate a few months back...

I don't mind people have a gun in their own home if they want to protect their land, just like I don't mind if people want to smoke cannabis in the privacy of their own homes. But what worries me is if you legalise these things, people will get hold of these things, and surely there will be more people that do things outside of their own homes?

Then again, maybe if it was legalised, the police would be more aware of people smoking cannabis on the streets...

[velvet]

smacks head on desk lol

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This part of the debate reminds me about the gun debate a few months back...

I don't mind people have a gun in their own home if they want to protect their land, just like I don't mind if people want to smoke cannabis in the privacy of their own homes. But what worries me is if you legalise these things, people will get hold of these things, and surely there will be more people that do things outside of their own homes?

Then again, maybe if it was legalised, the police would be more aware of people smoking cannabis on the streets...

i think that'd have to be something to be ironed out.
personally, i'd make it so people can only smoke it on private properties or in their own cars.

[Special]

And no, once again an excellent twisting of my words. "Cannabis SUPPOSEDLY helps brain cancer - before you try and tell me it helps every cancer sufferer."

I think even a coke taking fool can work out that supposedly means that it may/may not, and that I also evidently deny any belief in it helping cancer sufferers.

Absolutely idiotic, there are so many types of cancer it is untrue - would you go into a Teenage Cancer Trust ward and tell everyone there that they will beat cancer if they start smoking weed? Really?

And it may well be the THC, but SMOKE can cause migraines - so we are going to combat the migraines in one way, then cause them in another. Fantastic.

can't believe i'm still replying to a media brainwash victim, 3 hours ago you thought that smoking cannabis could result in death lol, glad i've taught you something