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    I think it's so wrong!! I'm a average size women with curves, I consider myself toned but unfortunately don't fit in a size 6 pair of jeans. I have a jumper and a crop top from their shops, I do fit in them but I avoid going in that place whenever I can for exactly that reason. Fat, thin, whatever. No-one should be made to feel unwelcome in a shop. I go into those places and feel a tad self concious because the people who work in my local Hollister are the people who I would avoid like the plague in college and I do in uni.

    Either they're really friendly in your face annoying or don't talk at all. There is no happy medium. Fair enough not stocking size XL and XXL, but they would broaden their market and cater for todays society better if they did. They are well within the law, but if I was a 'big lady' and shopping with my friends, after reading this i would feel sooo insecure about going into their shop. When I was giving my cousin a hand applying for jobs she had to do a video type CV, this must be why.
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    They have every right to market to whoever they want.

    What's wrong is the rude way he said that's what they do in that statement. A simple 'we don't plan on catering for larger sizes any time soon' would have sufficed. After reading that I wouldn't want to buy anything from them.

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    They have the right to decide whatever they want, it's their store, the way they think they get more profit should be the way they are do it, if that way is to say only thin people should shop there, then be it.

    But if they are a north american company, won't they have more trouble finding costumers this way? I'm not saying there aren't thin people in the US, but the percentage of fat people is huge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlooBanana View Post
    I think it's so wrong!! I'm a average size women with curves, I consider myself toned but unfortunately don't fit in a size 6 pair of jeans. I have a jumper and a crop top from their shops, I do fit in them but I avoid going in that place whenever I can for exactly that reason. Fat, thin, whatever. No-one should be made to feel unwelcome in a shop. I go into those places and feel a tad self concious because the people who work in my local Hollister are the people who I would avoid like the plague in college and I do in uni.

    Either they're really friendly in your face annoying or don't talk at all. There is no happy medium. Fair enough not stocking size XL and XXL, but they would broaden their market and cater for todays society better if they did. They are well within the law, but if I was a 'big lady' and shopping with my friends, after reading this i would feel sooo insecure about going into their shop. When I was giving my cousin a hand applying for jobs she had to do a video type CV, this must be why.
    I'd feel unwelcome in Games Workshop because their target audience is not me and therefore I do not enter that shop. Same rule applies here, some people get so uppity about these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    I'd feel unwelcome in Games Workshop because their target audience is not me and therefore I do not enter that shop. Same rule applies here, some people get so uppity about these things.
    The games workshop does not appeal to me what so ever, but I'd rather feel unwelcome because It doesn't appeal to me rather than feel unwelcome because I'm too fat for their 'Image'. I'm definitely not being arrogant at all, If anything the company big shots are being arrogant to the fact there is more to life than being stick thin, popular and in their eyes beautiful. They could of made that statement so much more polite, they're not doing anything wrong. But in my opinion the way they have worded that is what is wrong.
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    I think they're okay to do what they're doing, but of course offending people isn't right But, then again, it's not as if all the larger people will stop shopping there because they are offended...

    But generally, it's okay, I don't think it's discrimination. It would be like me complaining that a female-only shop is only selling clothes for women. (Can't name any off the top of my head )

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlooBanana View Post
    The games workshop does not appeal to me what so ever, but I'd rather feel unwelcome because It doesn't appeal to me rather than feel unwelcome because I'm too fat for their 'Image'. I'm definitely not being arrogant at all, If anything the company big shots are being arrogant to the fact there is more to life than being stick thin, popular and in their eyes beautiful. They could of made that statement so much more polite, they're not doing anything wrong. But in my opinion the way they have worded that is what is wrong.
    It doesn't appeal to you because you're not their target audience, he can afford to be arrogant and direct his business to whoever he wants because the company takes over $4bn a year. This quote is from 2006 by the way so this whole thing is behind the times. What's next? People complaining that up market stores discriminate against poor people because their prices are too high?

    If, for whatever reason, a specific business does not appeal to you - do not use that business. Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    It doesn't appeal to you because you're not their target audience, he can afford to be arrogant and direct his business to whoever he wants because the company takes over $4bn a year. This quote is from 2006 by the way so this whole thing is behind the times. What's next? People complaining that up market stores discriminate against poor people because their prices are too high?

    If, for whatever reason, a specific business does not appeal to you - do not use that business. Simple.
    Exactly, but just because a fatter person isn't their target audience doesn't mean they should feel unwelcome in their shops. Theres a difference between high end fashion than discrimination for being fat. I can't afford a pair of Jimmy Choo's for example, but I'd still go in the shop and I definitely don't feel discriminated against because In their eyes I'm probably poor. I don't know, I feel it's a bit messed up saying those things. My opinion and It probably won't change :>
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    I don't think there's any difference between any type of discrimination whether it be against wealth, appearance sexuality etc because there will always be a divide and despite people preaching the 'perfect world', people aren't equal and nobody is 'the same'. I'm not saying I agree with him coming out into the main stream media and condemning people like this, it's just you cannot take the high road against their company practices. The best protest is to avoid those shops.

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    I completely agree with what you have said there. But I don't believe high end fashion discriminate against wealth, although I do believe there isn't any difference between any discrimination. Just thought this guy is ridiculously arrogant and it's a shame people are like that.
    “Life is very, very short, and you can choose to live it how you want. You can choose to dumb yourself down and not express yourself just so you can fit in, just so people won’t dislike you. Or you can live"
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