Gay Poll...

[Aiden]

Facts can be wrong.

An opinion cannot be objectively 'wrong'. Only when the opinion is constructed with purported 'facts' can it kind of be classed as 'wrong'.

A belief, on the other hand, can. Such as when people believed that the world is flat (which people seem to always use as an argument for this) that was not an OPINION that was a belief about a fact

But can opinions be wrong?

''9/11 is good'' < wrong or right...

[lawrawrrr]

But can opinions be wrong?

''9/11 is good'' < wrong or right...

lol

that's not a wrong or right thing


Whilst it may be morally wrong to the majority of Western society without even a second thought, some people think it was a good thing, and there is literally no objective judgement for it to be either 'right' or 'wrong'.

OH GOD I am not glorifying terrorism in any way but the hijackers involved thought it was 'right' and other members of Al Qaeda thought, think, it was right, hell even some organisations (like Westboro Baptist Church probably) thought it was 'right' because of whatever reasons...

but i'm not getting into this argument with anyone, especially not you

[Aiden]

lol

that's not a wrong or right thing


Whilst it may be morally wrong to the majority of Western society without even a second thought, some people think it was a good thing, and there is literally no objective judgement for it to be either 'right' or 'wrong'.

OH GOD I am not glorifying terrorism in any way but the hijackers involved thought it was 'right' and other members of Al Qaeda thought, think, it was right, hell even some organisations (like Westboro Baptist Church probably) thought it was 'right' because of whatever reasons...

but i'm not getting into this argument with anyone, especially not you

we votee yeahh... so if most of us vote for it as wrong, den its wrong init lol

[lawrawrrr]

we votee yeahh... so if most of us vote for it as wrong, den its wrong init lol

please, for the sake of humanity, go back to school...

That's literally you saying we should oppress minority group. The minority group in the situation of this thread is homosexuals (even though it should be for all LGBT+ people and not just 'G' IMHO). Logic?

[Aiden]

please, for the sake of humanity, go back to school...

That's literally you saying we should oppress minority group. The minority group in the situation of this thread is homosexuals (even though it should be for all LGBT+ people and not just 'G' IMHO). Logic?

no i dont get ya

[lawrawrrr]

no i dont get ya

Of course you don't. Don't worry.

[Aiden]

Of course you don't. Don't worry.

Well i could do but i dont care lol

[lawrawrrr]

Well i could do but i dont care lol

That just about says it all really.......

[FlyingJesus]

So by that logic, we should have never passed laws to ensure women are paid the same as men?

That's actually very much unnecessary in the modern world because quite clearly if an entire group of people is able to be paid under minimum wage then all businesses with any sense will snap them up as workers in order to save money, which would then decrease the value of those initially put ahead anyway and create a level of equal pay simply through economic necessity

It's not illegal, its just not legal lol

Christ alive

If you narrow down your market, even by a tiny bit by saying "NO SMOKERS AT ALL ANY NEAR MY PROPERTY" you're going to scare a great deal of people off.

Which is the right of the business, and if they suffer as a result of it then it's their own fault. Same as how A&F are quite entitled to say that they don't want to cater to larger ladies - it might not have been a great idea to broadcast it but it's well within their rights to choose their own target market

That's your personal home, not a business.

...And unless you've sold your business to the state or they own it through mortgages and such it remains a private area. This is an especially bad point in reference to B&Bs in which the owner quite often does use as their personal home as well as business

Your private property, aka your house, where you live, is not the same as a commercial property, whether you outright own it or what, it is a commercial space.

And again, commercial spaces are in general privately owned. The state is not the market and the market is not the state

Also you think that business owners should be able to turn away whoever they want for any throwaway reason? Bloody hell. That's literally the only response I can even muster. Try being disadvantaged in some way and maybe you'll understand...

You now have to be my best friend and buy me gifts because I am disadvantaged and if you don't I will make laws against you. You are literally attempting to argue against freedom of choice, nice one

Do you even read what I write? Their own property. Private property. They can do what they want. Like public indecency rules, be as naked as you want inside but keep it to yourself: if you're owning a business you're literally not allowed to discriminate without a completely objective and reasonable reason.

Do you even read what you write? Most businesses are private property - inviting people in to partake in custom is not the same thing as a space being a public right of way, and yes you literally are allowed to discriminate without a completely objective and reasonable reason; it's written into a huge number of company policies especially in regards to retail and... DA DA DA! guest housing

the literal law says that they don't have the same rights to refuse people entry onto a commercial property.

What the hell are you on about that's not true at all. In the public sector (ie: things actually owned/run by the state) you can't discriminate but otherwise yes you can, for no reason at all

Women are, have been, oppressed and by only letting women in it's more of a political point than an outright discrimination.

Please, go ahead and tell me how women are oppressed in the Western world, and also tell me how you plan to back up your argument that a small section of society (homosexuals) should be allowed freedom of access absolutely everywhere on the planet but half the world's population (men) shouldn't have such freedoms just because a woman said so. It's guaranteed to be hilarious

"Check your privilege" is an actual term which is used to remind people that actually they are quite privileged. In the society we live in, me, as a bisexual woman is less privileged than you, a straight white male (I believe). Then again, I am less privileged than an member of an ethnic minority group.

OH JESUS THE LAUGHTER. Someone's been on tumblr too much and taken in dogmatic buzzwords instead of actually thinking. Let's make privilege ladders! Let's tell people their opinions don't count because of how they were born while in the same breath claiming to be for equality! "Check your privilege" is a term that is under absolute ridicule because it means nothing, does nothing, and helps no-one. Again though I'd LOVE to hear how you're less privileged as a woman than someone who faces a bigger threat of every single type of violent crime (other than domestic violence, which is near enough 50/50), can be forced to pay child support to their rapist and yet be refused by law to see that same child, is 165% more likely to be incarcerated for perpetrating the same crime (ie: if a white woman has 100% chance of being convicted, a white man has a 265% chance), and a whole slew of other legally ingrained discriminatory problems. Please don't come back with "well sometimes men are rude to me"

No I may not be at too much of an obvious advantage compared to you but at the end of the day I am slightly less privileged because I was unfortunate enough to be born a woman

Yeah you poor thing being legally protected against just about everything it's possible to protect you from



Seriously you have a lot of reading to do

[!x!dude!x!2]

People's opinions can be wrong.

how can some one opinion be wrong :/ an opinion is a opinion