Should teenage mothers have their benefits removed and/or restricted?

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Did you really just compare disabled people who need benefits with silly teenage girls who can't keep their legs shut? wow, just wow.

lmao as if you have the audacity to criticise my comparisons when yours are just as bizarre!

[-:Undertaker:-]

lmao as if you have the audacity to criticise my comparisons when yours are just as bizarre!

Depends what's being compared in regards to a principle and in what context.

But you still haven't answered me - how is it at all justified that hard working taxpayers, many of whom have children themselves, are forced to pay for the recklessness of others? you aren't forced or required to have sex as a teenager, nor are you forced to fall pregnant.

So why should decent people who work be forced by the state to pay for the mistakes of others? defend that one.

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Depends what's being compared in regards to a principle and in what context.

But you still haven't answered me - how is it at all justified that hard working taxpayers, many of whom have children themselves, are forced to pay for the recklessness of others? you aren't forced or required to have sex as a teenager, nor are you forced to fall pregnant.

So why should decent people who work be forced by the state to pay for the mistakes of others? defend that one.

There's plenty of 'decent' teenage mums out there, you're splitting them into two groups here aren't you? The hard working decent tax payers and the scrounging teenage mothers, with their quinny prams with a heap full of shopping hanging off. Like I said in my first post, there will always be people who abuse the system but why are you making out every single pregnant teenager is the same? They're not, I know plenty who do work and do their best to support their child with little help off the government. Now correct me if I'm wrong here but I'm going to make an assumption that you yourself, do not personally know any teenage mums? Because by the sounds of it you're way too judgemental over them. Pregnancy can actually be accidental, did you know that? Pregnancy can also happen if a girl is raped, did you know that? It's not JUST the girls fault and it's as much as the boys fault as it is the girls, you're pinning this all on teenage mothers. I don't see you pinning the blame on any of the boys? Why aren't they equally responsible? A lack of family support also leads teenage parents to rely on government money, it's not easy raising a child.

You need to realise mistakes happen in life, nobodies perfect and nor should we expect them to be. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it wrong and it certainly doesn't make the person an idiotic waste of oxygen which is what you're basically implying.

Back to your question, why shouldn't we support teenage mothers financially? What if you were to have a daughter who (GOD FORBID) ended up pregnant at the age of 15? You'd discourage her in claiming benefits if she needed to? Hypothetically speaking, if you couldn't afford to support her and the baby. I'm not a bigot and I don't mind paying tax for something which is helping support the ones who need it. There's no way to filter out the ones who will just abuse the system though, likewise with many other benefits. What are we meant to do with them? Leave them and their baby to starve to death? See them homeless? That's just creating far more problems and taxes will go on other services for them anyway if that were the case... Anyway I really don't know what the hell you're moaning about, I'm sure most taxes go on state pensions anyway...

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@Tokyo; it wouldn't let me edit my original post, sorry for double post mods

Quite honestly in Britain these teenage women with kids don't spend any of the benefit on the kids. They give the kids the food they need, leave the child with the grandparents then go out and spend the benefit money on some cigarettes.

I think something should be put into order about this:

1) The benefit money hasto be spend on the child, not the mother and the mother has to record all purchases spent on the child.

2) If the benefit money is being wasted (social worker investigations) remove the payments and possibly take the child in care due to mistreatment.

Also, too much benefit money is being given out.

I live in Blackpool, probably one of the poorest areas in Britain, my family does not claim benefits and we generally live in a nice area.

The school I go to, we have kids walking around with new phones and stupid expensive items like that flashing them to everyone. If somebody was to ask where they got it from I am sure 40 - 50% of them would openly say

"My dad got £400 health benefit the other week and he got me a phone"

That example has actually occurred to me a few times with some friends I have.


Child benefits need to be cut for mothers that waste the money and benefits in general need to have a good amount cut off them.

I've just read your post properly and you're almost as ridiculous as the all mighty undertaker. In response to your points.

1. Are you freaking serious? This isn't job seekers allowance lol... A record of purchases would NEVER work. Plus all teenage mums are dishonest, idiotic silly girls according to undertaker... So there's nothing to stop people lying. Having to prove what you've spent money on seems more like an interrogation than any means of support.

2. Your second comment isn't even really worth commenting on because it's the most bizarre idea I've heard all day. Social worker taking the children into care? Just because money isn't 100% spent on the child doesn't make that mother a bad mother. You do know that? Right?

3. Need to be cut, you're going on like they get a lot of money when in comparison to having a full time career it's peanuts really. Plus do you know how expensive it actually is to raise a child? Like I said to undertaker, it's difficult to filter out the ones who abuse it and the ones who don't.

and the rest, I don't really give a toss about your life story lol.

[Zak]

Why should hard working taxpayers, many of whom have children themselves and who struggle to pay day-to-day bills, be forced to pay for the care of moronic and stupid teenage girls & their offspring who couldn't keep their legs shut?

What happens when you reward stupid and reckless behaviour? you get more of it.

All my office agreed with what you put. Why do we work our arses off to pay for the "moronic and stupid teenage girls & their offspring who couldn't keep their legs shut". As you put it

My total deductions per month reach over £500 paying tax, NI and pension scheme.

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All my office agreed with what you put. Why do we work our arses off to pay for the "moronic and stupid teenage girls & their offspring who couldn't keep their legs shut". As you put it

My total deductions per month reach over £500 paying tax, NI and pension scheme.

What do you suppose they do then? Suffer with no support? Which like I said, will most likely create more problems than it's worth. Most of your taxes don't even go towards them as it is anyway...

[Matthew]

What do you suppose they do then? Suffer with no support? Which like I said, will most likely create more problems than it's worth. Most of your taxes don't even go towards them as it is anyway...

Well if they're going to suffer for it, why did they have the child?

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Well if they're going to suffer for it, why did they have the child?

Because Matts, life isn't quite as simple as people are making it out to be. Do you think most teenage pregnancies are planned? Of course they're not. These girls shouldn't be punished for being undereducated and vulnerable!

Also do none of you realise that if their benefits were to be cut/stopped. Your taxes would still go towards their healthcare anyway.

[Matthew]

Because Matts, life isn't quite as simple as people are making it out to be. Do you think most teenage pregnancies are planned? Of course they're not. These girls shouldn't be punished for being undereducated and vulnerable!

Also do none of you realise that if their benefits were to be cut/stopped. Your taxes would still go towards their healthcare anyway.

well imo if people don't take measures to prevent pregnancy, then they should take responsibility for it if/when it happens!

There's not planning to get pregnant and then there's actually stopping/preventing it from happening.

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well imo if people don't take measures to prevent pregnancy, then they should take responsibility for it if/when it happens!

There's not planning to get pregnant and then there's actually stopping/preventing it from happening.

And who's saying they don't take responsibility for it? You're making out like the majority of them are terrible mothers which they're not.