PS4 or XBOX ONE

[Matthew]

[Southe,]

no doubt someone will make something to allow you to capture PS4 down the line and as i don;t do it it doesnt effect me.

Also work in progress feel free to correct or add.

	PS+	XBL
Price	$50	$60
Free Games	Yes	No
Multiplayer	Yes	Yes
Party Chat	Doesn't Require PS+	Yes
Netflix	Doesn't Require PS+	Yes
DVR	Doesn't Require PS+	Yes
Youtube Internet Skype	Doesn't Require PS+ Doesn't Require PS+ Doesn't Require PS+	Yes Yes Yes

Pretty sure there's more things like on demand services, obv tv features for 180 and American apps like hulu and amazon video we don't get here in the UK if someone can point me to a proper PS+ vs XBL for Ps4/Xbox180 that would be great.

[Chris]

Xbox One unboxing for anyone whos interested:



I'm torn between them at the moment

[Matthew]

no doubt someone will make something to allow you to capture PS4 down the line and as i don;t do it it doesnt effect me.

Also work in progress feel free to correct or add.

	PS+	XBL
Price	$50	$60
Free Games	Yes	No
Multiplayer	Yes	Yes
Party Chat	Doesn't Require PS+	Yes
Netflix	Doesn't Require PS+	Yes
DVR	Doesn't Require PS+	Yes
Youtube Internet Skype	Doesn't Require PS+ Doesn't Require PS+ Doesn't Require PS+	Yes Yes Yes

Pretty sure there's more things like on demand services, obv tv features for 180 and American apps like hulu and amazon video we don't get here in the UK if someone can point me to a proper PS+ vs XBL for Ps4/Xbox180 that would be great.

so will you be getting PS+?

[Plebings]

can someone remind me which side southe, is on again?

[Southe,]

so will you be getting PS+?

Already have it on Ps3

can someone remind me which side southe, is on again?

Playstation 4. In my eyes they have done everything right and they have not done anything wrong, compared to Microsoft and 180'ing everything. It's been a shambles since it was announced and they say one thing then do something different, they can;'t even stand by there product and give in to public outcry. Sony didn't have that problem because they listened the first time.

And before anyone points the finger and claims fanboy.
Game Gear, Master System, Mega Drive, DreamCast
Playstation, 2, 3, Portable
Xbox 360
Nintendo Gamecube, Wii, Gameboy, Colour, Advance, SP, DS, DS Lite, 3ds

Sony only makes up 4/18 Consoles, 19 if you include that I'll get a Wii-U when there's more games. And I'm most likely going to buy a 3DS XL before i think about getting a Vita.

[Pezza]

Hands down always PS4 for me.

[Matthew]

Playstation 4. In my eyes they have done everything right and they have not done anything wrong, compared to Microsoft and 180'ing everything. It's been a shambles since it was announced and they say one thing then do something different, they can;'t even stand by there product and give in to public outcry. Sony didn't have that problem because they listened the first time.

Seriously it is just absolutely beyond me that you're criticizing microsoft for doing what the public wants. I actually cannot believe it.

Fair enough you can suggest that microsoft started out on the wrong foot but to criticize them for changing what everyone wants to be changed is just bizarre....

You say you're not a fanboy but seriously on virtually every page there's a post by you mocking the xbox "180", or a picture/gif which you've posted to down the xbox or big up the ps4..

[Southe,]

Seriously it is just absolutely beyond me that you're criticizing microsoft for doing what the public wants. I actually cannot believe it.
Fair enough you can suggest that microsoft started out on the wrong foot but to criticize them for changing what everyone wants to be changed is just bizarre....
Simply, Microsoft aren't making these changes because its what the fans want, there changing it because they were being humiliated at pre-orders and polls and were scared for losing all there customers. As i quoted on the other page
Major Nelson is quoted saying
"We can’t just flip a switch to turn off DRM. The console was built around it"
And after a week or two of telling people no, and this is the vision and direction. They then said they had listened to there fans and where making the changes which was balls and they only made the decision because of the slaughtering that was happening, If the numbers were more close do you think Microsoft would have made these changes? No and you know that as well.

If they were "listening" to the fans then, Kinect wouldn't be mandatory, but of course they wouldn't do that.
http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/05/xbox-o...-mind-3870068/

You say you're not a fanboy but seriously on virtually every page there's a post by you mocking the xbox "180", or a picture/gif which you've posted to down the xbox or big up the ps4..
Well then, Microsoft should stop giving me ammunition then? I watched both Reveals and E3 and they had all that time to impress me and they failed, I have even admitted that couple of the games seemed interesting. But they have shambled ever since with there advertising and information. Pointing out the truth doesn't make me a Fanboy.

And i call it the 180 because
Always Online >180> No need to anymore
DRM >180> No DRM
Indie Games can't Self Publish >180> Now they can
180 won't come with a head set >180> Now they will

I guess the next one will be no need for XBL Gold for things like netflix,

[Neil]

KH3 was the highlight for me as well, but the Xbox 180 release is pointless. I'm all for 3rd party devs to release there content on multi plats (screw you capcom with your Dead Rising 3) but they haven't had any of the games.

They were Ps2, and now the Ps3 is getting HD Collections with the portable spinoffs as movie/cutscenes meaning we get the whole story where as the 180 has had 0 Kingdom hearts games. If they were releasing the HD collections for the 360 as well then it would have made sense.

KH3 should be a PS4 exclusive and since its meant to finish off the current storyline, KH4 would be an ideal place to let X180 players join in. That or release the collections for 360. Stuff like Dead Rising going multi plat then back to exclusive and Bayonetta going Multi Plat then making the sequel for a console that didn't have the first game is stupid.

That's a really dumb arguement, I guess PS3 shouldn't have got Mass Effect 2 or 3 because it doesn't have Mass Effect 1, are you so narrow minded that you believe the XB1 doesn't deserve KH3 because it was a PS2 exclusive and Xbox owners won't know what the story is? I don't know what planet you're on but owning a PS2 wasn't exactly an exclusive club.

no doubt someone will make something to allow you to capture PS4 down the line and as i don;t do it it doesnt effect me.

Also work in progress feel free to correct or add.

	PS+	XBL
Price	$50	$60
Free Games	Yes	No
Multiplayer	Yes	Yes
Party Chat	Doesn't Require PS+	Yes
Netflix	Doesn't Require PS+	Yes
DVR	Doesn't Require PS+	Yes
Youtube Internet Skype	Doesn't Require PS+ Doesn't Require PS+ Doesn't Require PS+	Yes Yes Yes

Pretty sure there's more things like on demand services, obv tv features for 180 and American apps like hulu and amazon video we don't get here in the UK if someone can point me to a proper PS+ vs XBL for Ps4/Xbox180 that would be great.

If PS4 got Skype then I would be beyond surprised, and we're all done with the PS Network/Xbox Live battle now, it's been fairly clear which service is better for the longest time now, obviously Sony "180'd" their fanbase when they decided you had to pay monthly for multiplayer, or is that totally fine and not a rip off anymore? I'm not really sure what the Sony fanboy mindset is anymore.

Also on the free games note, that's still to be decided in terms of Xbox One, in the past few months Microsoft have given quite a few free games, with more to come, and unlike Playstation, they're *actually* free and you keep them after your gold subscription runs out.

Already have it on Ps3

Previously posted complaining about all the features you have to pay for on Xbox Live but you pay £40 a year for PS+ anyway, meaning regardless you'd be getting the exact same features.

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Anyway, these console wars are getting silly, at the end of the day, buy the one you want, deal with the fact other people might want something else, I'm sticking with Xbox because I prefer the controller, I don't care what stupid "limitations" they put on it because at the end of the day, I have a 100Mb/s internet connection, I have the money to pay the £40 a year for Xbox Live, so I don't care, it doesn't effect me, I might buy the PS4 one day but until a better third party controller becomes available I just don't care.