Uni Freshers!

[AgnesIO]

The fees are lower, I do not dispute that - but the cost of living in Dublin is very high. If you or your family are independently wealthy and can afford to pay for your accommodation and living costs then yes, studying in Ireland is technically cheaper than the UK, but most people would have to rely on student loans - except there aren't any loans available to British students studying in Ireland. It is cheaper, but for most people far less affordable.

How does your French cousin pay for his accommodation, food, books, travel etc?

Jesus christ, it is still cheaper...

Whether someone can afford to do it up front does NOT mean it isn't cheaper - it still is. If there is a car that can be £100,000 but you have to pay up front, or £1,000,000 but you get loans to pay for it at first, the £100,000 is STILL cheaper - that won't change.

Cost of living may be higher, but are you telling me it is £8,000 per YEAR cheaper (than say... London?)

[Rozi]

This is literally the most boring conversation I have ever ever ever seen.

[lawrawrrr]

HA


we have the doritos mariachi band performing in our freshers

[Okeanos]

Jesus christ, it is still cheaper...

Whether someone can afford to do it up front does NOT mean it isn't cheaper - it still is. If there is a car that can be £100,000 but you have to pay up front, or £1,000,000 but you get loans to pay for it at first, the £100,000 is STILL cheaper - that won't change.

Cost of living may be higher, but are you telling me it is £8,000 per YEAR cheaper (than say... London?)

For goodness sake, would you stop clinging to the word 'cheaper' - it means nothing in this discussion. It does not matter if the tuition fees are cheaper if you have no way to pay for your accommodation or living costs, unless you're planning on sleeping on Dublin's streets. You might be able to pay for your rent and food without taking out a student loan, but the majority of people can't therefore Ireland is not an affordable alternative to studying in Britain. If you really do not understand that then you do not belong at university at all, let alone TCD or Harvard. For the love of Christ I hope you don't want to study economics.

Your car analogy is quite ridiculous; if you do not have £100,000 then you can't buy the car even if it is cheaper. Why don't you understand that?!

[Eoin247]

The fees are lower, I do not dispute that - but the cost of living in Dublin is very high. If you or your family are independently wealthy and can afford to pay for your accommodation and living costs then yes, studying in Ireland is technically cheaper than the UK, but most people would have to rely on student loans - except there aren't any loans available to British students studying in Ireland. It is cheaper, but for most people far less affordable.

How does your French cousin pay for his accommodation, food, books, travel etc?

Surely it's not more expensive than London. When I was thinking about going to Imperial college, I had a hard time looking for affordable accommodation.

He paid using a combination of summer work money and his parents money. He was made fully aware of the costs though. There's a ton of student discounts for just about everything in Dublin thanks to representatives. For example students get 2 meals for the price of one in a restaurant located on the most expensive street in Ireland (Grafton street), as a result you can get high quality meals in good restaurants for as little as €5.

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we have the doritos mariachi band performing in our freshers

Lucky. We only get some of those Geordie shore douchebags

[sex]

Okeanos you actually have no idea of the cost of living in Dublin, just because you read a few articles saying the cost of living is high doesn't mean its like that all over the city. You can rent a house with other students and end up paying only 60 euros a week. You're too book smart and think you know it all!!

[Yupt]

Starting to really wish I was going to uni this year rather than next year with a year off

[Okeanos]

Surely it's not more expensive than London. When I was thinking about going to Imperial college, I had a hard time looking for affordable accommodation.

Unless Dublin rents have gone down drastically since I researched them in 2011, they were comparable in general with London.

He paid using a combination of summer work money and his parents money. He was made fully aware of the costs though. There's a ton of student discounts for just about everything in Dublin thanks to representatives. For example students get 2 meals for the price of one in a restaurant located on the most expensive street in Ireland (Grafton street), as a result you can get high quality meals in good restaurants for as little as €5.

Exactly, that is my point. Most people can not rely on their parents to fund them. Nor is it sensible to rely on the finding of a summer job in Ireland or Britain, the chances of getting one are not high. This is why I say Ireland is only an affordable option if you do not have to rely on student loans, even if it is cheaper.

Okeanos you actually have no idea of the cost of living in Dublin, just because you read a few articles saying the cost of living is high doesn't mean its like that all over the city. You can rent a house with other students and end up paying only 60 euros a week. You're too book smart and think you know it all!!

This post is hardly worth responding to, you do not know what I know so why are you involving yourself in this discussion? Having spent many months researching TCD a few years ago and talking to Irish family members about the cost of living in Dublin I understand better than most in this thread the costs involved, you certainly aren't going to be renting anywhere for 60 euros per week. :rolleyes:

I would say you need at least 8000 euros per year to live in Dublin, and more if you intend to stay during the summer break. Accommodation is likely to be around 100 euros a week.

[sex]

Yup because I haven't loved in Dublin for the last 20 years! I don't have friends who rent with other students and pay such a low amount!! I'm totally wrong!

Oh wait, it's you who's wrong

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I think living in Ireland, specifically Dublin would give me a better understanding than you. Your family members probably told you it was so high so they wouldn't have to put up with you if you decided to come and study here

[Okeanos]

Yup because I haven't loved in Dublin for the last 20 years! I don't have friends who rent with other students and pay such a low amount!! I'm totally wrong!

Oh wait, it's you who's wrong

---------- Post added 30-08-2013 at 04:34 PM ----------

I think living in Ireland, specifically Dublin would give me a better understanding than you. Your family members probably told you it was so high so they wouldn't have to put up with you if you decided to come and study here

That is a typical response I would expect from someone with your intellectual ability, that is to say none. Your living in Dublin is irrelevant and does not disprove what I have said at all. It is not surprising that a Dubliner could find cheaper rents because they might be prepared to live further outside the city centre and commute in, live at home or share with friends - all these things could decrease one's rent (although not to 60 euros :rolleyes but none of these options are available to international students, at least not in the first year!

Your assumption that an international student can arrive in Dublin and immediately find friends to share a house with is ridiculous.