have u ever cut?

[mrwoooooooo]

really.... are you freaking serious...

So uhm, eating a bag of quavers isn't clever, but nor is it stupid.
Picking up the fork before the knife isn't clever, nor is it stupid.
Cutting yourslef isn't clever and it's not stupid...

where do you go to school man..

fyi your examples are clever imo

[oli]

but that's still hurting your body and according to you, life is a gift and "you only live once" so why would you do that oli, why

to enjoy it even more than you already are you silly date!

[Cerys]

besides theyre all different examples completely, cutting takes serious thought and if they come to the conclusion that they need to cut themselves...

it goes against the instinct of every living thing to harm yourself

i am trying to show you that not everything needs a 'clever' and 'stupid' label.

[karter]

to enjoy it even more than you already are you silly date!

inb4 kidney and liver failure

if its not clever it must be stupid dot dot dot

that way you're stupid too coz you ain't sounding a bit clever to me dear :confused_

[oli]

i am trying to show you that not everything needs a 'clever' and 'stupid' label.

you need to learn how to open a packet of crisps
you need to learn how to pick up a knife n fork

theyre both clever things if you compare to the intelligence of an animals
dogs are capable of many emotions, and they're able to feel sad for example, but they don't hurt themselves because of it, because it is the instinct of every animal to not hurt themselves, which is partly why pain and nerves exist, its your bodies way of telling you to stop that right now

[The Don]

God i've missed habbox debates /s

There are so many differing factors and circumstances in self harming that you can't really group them all together nor can you label anyone who does it an idiot (well you can, but it would be a woefully ignorant thing to say). I think it's more to do with mental health issues rather than stupidity in majority of cases. Although i would agree that anyone who took part in #cut4bieber is stupid.

[geo]

jfc oli you are literally ridiculous

it's fine to have an opinion.. but to be so rude about it? :rolleyes:

(i hate to do this but)

when i first hurt myself i wasn't even thinking how i usually would. like i didn't think to myself at the time i did it "oh i'm gonna hurt myself" i just did it because i needed to get away from everything... it's like i thought about it but i wasn't telling myself to do it and it just kinda happened and after it was all a blur lol, my mind wasn't saying "don't do this!!!! it's bad for u" for me that came wayyyy after

i don't think you should really judge it if you've never done it either. obviously people shouldn't feel like they have to do it nor is it the best option but for many people they believe it to be the only option (rather than something more serious) or just an 'easy' option for a quick release of pain. and u've gotta understand, u may think cutting yourself is scary but also thinking horrible thoughts in ur head could be equally as bad (or worse!!) soooo people would much rather 'distract' themselves and think about that.

as for the things that happen after cutting (like many people feel anxious about their cuts, hide them, feel ashamed, etc.) it's different for all people. i really hated the hiding bit but i realised that the relief it gave me was really great

also as for the happiness thing, happiness isn't a goal for everyone and u cannot be expected to be happy all the time. happiness for some people is hard to achieve (and it's totally okay and not their fault) and also bEING SAD ISN'T THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CUT. THEY MAY FEEL OTHER EMOTIONS TOO WHICH LEADS THEM TO IT. and ur point about bc we don't live in a third world country... .. ... are you ******* kidding me lol? you're so narrow minded.

sorry if i've repeated any of the points anyones said but he honestly disgusted me and this might not make any sense bc tired

also i liked this and thought it might be worth u reading

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Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.It’s almost hard for me to take in because really, happiness has always been a goal. A destination. The end all be all of every day. What we all strive for. To be happy.
But it’s ok to not be happy. It’s ok to be sad, frustrated, worried, down…it’s ok. Because just like happiness they are moods. They are something just as ok to feel as happiness is. And when sometimes it seems like things are against you and one thing after another is just going…wrong. It’s ok to not be happy. And it’s ok to own it, to put it on and know that it’s how you feel. Because ignoring it, putting the other emotions in a box on a shelf…just means one day you have a really full box you can no longer ignore.
A box full of people who have let you down. People who have hurt and betrayed you. A box with anger over the things that blew up in your face. A box with regrets of the things you did, and maybe the things you didn’t do. A box with frustrations over things that didn’t go the way you think they should have. A box full of worries for the things that hang over your head. A box of bad days. A box that ends up making you anxious when you have to stuff more into it.
And I’m tired of feeling like these feelings aren’t ok. I’m tired of being filled with anxiety when I see certain names or when I’m reminded of the things I’ve stuffed into the box. I am tired of feeling pressure (pressure I’ve placed on my own shoulders) to place the destination of happiness above the reality of owning my emotions.
Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.
And just like all other moods, it’s not a permanent state of being. And that’s ok. I need to own all the other things when I feel them. Because they are moods. They are ok.
Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.

[Eoin247]

Depression is an illness despite what many people say. Feeling the need to cut is one of the side effects of this particular illness, and like all illnesses, not everybody gets all the side effects.

That said, you shouldn't say that cutting is 'ok'. It's dangerous to do so. It's like people saying that it's ok to be obese, it's not right and unfair on vulnerable people.

if it happened, it happened for whatever reason and it doesn't mean that you're stupid or smart. But it's not fine to say that it was ok.

[Elegance]

i haven't bothered reading most of this thread because your ignorance angers me to the point that i literally can not bare to read anymore so correct me if someone has already stated what i'm about to say or if i'm wrong about something.

cutting doesn't help anything whichever way you look at it.

actually it does, when someone cuts themselves their brain reacts to the pain by releasing endorphins, which immediately bring a calming affect and makes them feel somewhat happier, some people describe this as numbing the emotional pain. endorphins are really addictive and it's hard to give up immediately which is why people find it hard to stop cutting. people don't enjoy cutting they are just hooked on the relief that the releasing of endorphins provides. some people become dependent on endorphins as their brain eventually keeps needing more and more of the source to keep the addiction under control, just like a drug addiction, you keep taking the drugs to keep your drug addiction under control, in this case imagine the drugs as cutting, if you have developed this 'addiction' it is then too late to just give up and quit. when you try to stop cutting straight away you have withdrawal symptons and end up panicing, which just adds to the stress (in this case i understand why some people may think it just causes more problems and does not help).

endorphins are the same chemical that are released when you exercise and are your brains way of handling pain or dress to the body and they calm you down if you're upset, which is why some people prefer to take walks alone when they're sad because walking is a form of exercise and some people exercise to make them happy, but i know i certainly don't want to exercise when i'm sad but different people are different. like georgia stated above, people cut for all different reasons, not just because they're sad but because they are feeling other emotions.

half of them do it to get the attention of others around them, some others are depressed but it is still a very stupid thing to do, you should trust in the people who are close to you n mayb u wont need to cut yourself

speaking from experience, i personally don't believe anyone cuts for attention, i believe everyone has their reasons. some people cut because they feel completely lonely, this meaning they have no one around them to trust or to talk to, maybe they're tried to trust in the people who are close to them, as i know one of the reasons i began cutting was because of this exact point, i felt that the people around me didn't care enough about me, i was constantly isolated and felt that no one cared, infact no one knew about it except one person on this forum, with this made me overthink how lonely i actually was, i had no one to speak to other than one person who lives like 200 miles away from me, no one around me actually cared and i felt like i couldn't go through life with no one physically by my side. i had no one to trust in.

its stupid if someone dwells on the bad parts of life, whats the point in that, if you're just gunna be miserable the entire time theres no point in you even being here, life is meant to be fun and if you're not gunna enjoy it ur just a waste

sometimes people can only see the bad parts of life, if there are so many bad things in your life it is so hard to enjoy the good things or even understand the good things because you are so overwhelmed by the sadness that it slowly begins to take over your life, this is where depression have a big effect on you.

unless you have experienced cutting it's very hard to understand why it helps and until you have been in that situation you will never understand, no one should ever have to understand, if you don't understand how someone could cut themselves, good, you should never have to be that desperate to feel something.

[Yawn]

every1 uniting to drag oli and do wat i couldnt

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!