Fire Comity and vls

[Martin]

By the sounds of it, everything about this event was official except for two things. The fact they were essentially hiring out subo's room... Why this is an issue I don't understand. Surely the event host would be the one hosting the game, and not necessarily the room owner.

And secondly, because it wasn't on the CNB, and by the sounds of it, the reason why it wasn't on there is because restrictions get put in place when it becomes an "official" event. If there are restrictions that are putting people off from hosting then maybe these need to be looked at.

If events hosts were hosting then I don't see why it couldnt have been booked officially and added to our panel/calendar/cnb etc, because it was done fine the night before, comity hosted in their as an official event etc.

[sex]

The current policy in events is that only one event can be hosted at a time, so the fact that there were Habbox staff (including events staff) in the strangers game, whilst a trialist was struggling to populate his room in the official event seemed a little unfair.

So you're telling me just because i'm staff means i cant play or host anything outside of normal events for and strictly only for Habbox events? I'm sorry but that is total bull-crap, so what if i hosted the event when someone else was trying to fill theirs. Not once was there any indication that it was an official Habbox event! The room name was simply for promo, something which you encourage over and over again. AGAIN also, so what if we were in another room, i posted about this in the events forum about how no one is joining because you don't expand outside of Habbox, you stick with who your comfortable with and that's why you get no one new to join up or sign up for events staff. You're the problem, not us hosting an un-official event at the same time and some boring ass game no one wanted to play anyways. Also i look in handbook and see nothing about 2 events at the sametime, maybe i need to read it again or maybe you're lying IDK.

I didn't make that policy, its just there, and we don't allow clashes etc. From those who don't know's point of view subo is representing Habbox, and personally I would love it if she became Habbox staff so it could become official all the time etc, not just when a Habbox host is hosting in there etc.

She don't want to as far as im aware, she offered her extremely popular game to allow events hosts only to use and for the last month you have ignored and snubbed her!! Why would she wanna join when you are like that?

Even if she was staff though, we've always discouraged multiple events at the same time, and im pretty sure most places have the same policy, due to how hard it is anyway to get a full room.

Wasn't hard for us, and usually isn't difficult for me to fill my events because i talk to more than 6 people at Habbox, and people outside it unlike you!

You're right in that events generally need to be more varied and interesting (whilst keeping some of the old favourites of course), but we do need to keep things fair and if an event isn't advertised on our site, forum etc, but is treated like a habbox event on the client, people do become confused as to whats going on.

STOP TALKING ABOUT VARITY WHEN YOUVE HOSTED THE EXACT SAME FOUR EVENTS FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS

PEOPLE LIKE OLD CLASSICS, YES BUT NOT 6 TIMES A DAY!! MAYBE ONCE A WEEK

Why didn't you book it so it could have been added to the calendar/panel and counted towards your minimum?

Alex told me it had to be in my room for it to be official

@Bolt660;

[Kardan]

If events hosts were hosting then I don't see why it couldnt have been booked officially and added to our panel/calendar/cnb etc, because it was done fine the night before, comity hosted in their as an official event etc.

How many people check the CNB versus how many people search Habbox on the navigator. As I've said, it seems that the restrictions in place seem to hold people back from putting them on the CNB.

[Samantha]

Just finished reading, but it looks like Subo was asked to remove the tags just because Graham and Myles were there, or just because event staff could ask her. When someone else uses Habbox's tags in the room are they asked to remove it if their room is popular? I highly doubt it. A few questions I have are:

Would she have been asked to remove the tags regardless of whether Graham and Myles were hosting?
Would it have been allowed to be booked when Subo was hosting it and it was in her room (I believe)?
Would it have been allowed to be booked as didn't duo hosts get removed a while ago?

I'm not really fussed, I've just read through the thread and I don't see a massive problem with it, based on she was hosting it hours before a Habbox one began anyway, so she had alreadt established the popularity surely?

[Plebings]

the only problem i'd see with this is if it was only subo hosting, though i'm sure she is a fab host, if something went wrong in the event this may look bad for habbox. i don't see the problem with eos 'renting' out other rooms, to be honest i would encourage it, eos have a responsibility that their event should be as best as they can be, it means we should be able to trust the eos to host anywhere and expect them to have the logic to overcome any problems that might occur if they weren't in their own room. some organisers complain they don't have the resources to host certain events, why not do it in someone else's room then?

if there are habbox staff there to overlook an event hosted by someone who isn't staff then why not? what's wrong with giving the impression someone is habbox staff if they're doing a good job?

OH CAN I JUST ADD I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE GUEST HOSTS WHO HAVE SHOWN AN OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTION TO EVENTS BUT WHO DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO ADHERE TO MINIMUMS

i don't think we'd have many events hosts left if this happened to be fair.

[lawrawrrr]

I'm going to assume that most of the forum is capable of recognising whether a competition is official or not by looking to see what forum it's in. I never had any issues when hosting my Mole series, and many many people host competitions all the time. Surely it makes sense that the only official competitions are those in the competitions forum, and you should have free reign to do what you want.

This is another example of the restrictions you get being staff, and I can see why people are put off from being staff.

Frankly, with the events department, it's in such a dire state that anything really would be a positive thing to do - instead of saying 'Oh no, we've got a popular event and the crap event is doing even crapper' we should be asking ourselves 'Why do we have crap events in the first place?'

I just think, personally, as comps staff, if I (or one of my colleagues) was to post a competition somewhere which followed the same format as official competitions then some people, new people to the forum (maybe some regulars too!!!) might mistake it for an official competition; there is no guarantee I would give out the prize I promise and they might be surprised that Habbox Competitions would scam someone like that; even though it's not in the official forum it LOOKS official to the untrained eye as I do have 'competitions staff' in my usertitle.

There's a lot of answers to everything you've said there but it's all been said time and time again; I think the main bit is it's very difficult to have exciting and new events in exciting and fun rooms all the time, and it depends on the set of staff you have. Events aren't dire at all; far from it, especially during HxSS they EXCELLED. It's natural to lull, especially around school time, in staff numbers and enthusiasm.

[Martin]

So you're telling me just because i'm staff means i cant play or host anything outside of normal events for and strictly only for Habbox events? I'm sorry but that is total bull-crap, so what if i hosted the event when someone else was trying to fill theirs. Not once was there any indication that it was an official Habbox event! The room name was simply for promo, something which you encourage over and over again. AGAIN also, so what if we were in another room, i posted about this in the events forum about how no one is joining because you don't expand outside of Habbox, you stick with who your comfortable with and that's why you get no one new to join up or sign up for events staff. You're the problem, not us hosting an un-official event at the same time and some boring ass game no one wanted to play anyways. Also i look in handbook and see nothing about 2 events at the sametime, maybe i need to read it again or maybe you're lying IDK.


She don't want to as far as im aware, she offered her extremely popular game to allow events hosts only to use and for the last month you have ignored and snubbed her!! Why would she wanna join when you are like that?


Wasn't hard for us, and usually isn't difficult for me to fill my events because i talk to more than 6 people at Habbox, and people outside it unlike you!



STOP TALKING ABOUT VARITY WHEN YOUVE HOSTED THE EXACT SAME FOUR EVENTS FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS

PEOPLE LIKE OLD CLASSICS, YES BUT NOT 6 TIMES A DAY!! MAYBE ONCE A WEEK






Alex told me it had to be in my room for it to be official

@Bolt660;

If you're going back two months then add lucky colour, dice battles and higher or lower too Some managers don't even do the things their department offers etc, I've known events managers in the past who have hosted virtually no events at all during their times in management, other departments are the same.


Didn't you host in subos room last night and it was official?


I dont see why it would have to be in your room for it to be official if we're allowing other rooms to be treated like habbox rooms?

[lawrawrrr]

i don't think we'd have many events hosts left if this happened to be fair.

depends how it ran, i'd host a few events a month if someone would let me - i'd suggest something to have hosts as they are then have guests on top of that just so there's more events really - guests wouldn't be able to host boring events though!!!


what about a habbox official events room where any staff member can host

[myles]

the only problem i'd see with this is if it was only subo hosting, though i'm sure she is a fab host, if something went wrong in the event this may look bad for habbox. i don't see the problem with eos 'renting' out other rooms, to be honest i would encourage it, eos have a responsibility that their event should be as best as they can be, it means we should be able to trust the eos to host anywhere and expect them to have the logic to overcome any problems that might occur if they weren't in their own room. some organisers complain they don't have the resources to host certain events, why not do it in someone else's room then?

if there are habbox staff there to overlook an event hosted by someone who isn't staff then why not? what's wrong with giving the impression someone is habbox staff if they're doing a good job?



i don't think we'd have many events hosts left if this happened to be fair.

yes i dont know who it was but i think it was oldlovesong. well she used to host games in other peoples rooms and i dont think there was ever a problem with it.

[Kardan]

I just think, personally, as comps staff, if I (or one of my colleagues) was to post a competition somewhere which followed the same format as official competitions then some people, new people to the forum (maybe some regulars too!!!) might mistake it for an official competition; there is no guarantee I would give out the prize I promise and they might be surprised that Habbox Competitions would scam someone like that; even though it's not in the official forum it LOOKS official to the untrained eye as I do have 'competitions staff' in my usertitle.

There's a lot of answers to everything you've said there but it's all been said time and time again; I think the main bit is it's very difficult to have exciting and new events in exciting and fun rooms all the time, and it depends on the set of staff you have. Events aren't dire at all; far from it, especially during HxSS they EXCELLED. It's natural to lull, especially around school time, in staff numbers and enthusiasm.

What person in their right mind would lay out a competition like the official ones do? Frankly, if people aren't checking where threads are posted, then it's their own issue really. Also, it's just as likely that new users could easily think any competitions on the forum could be official. I will give you the point that the competitions department is slightly different than the events department here, but you should still be allowed to host competitions, heck, you could even say in the post it's non official.

And it's all fine to have good events for 3 weeks of the whole year, but that's just not good enough. It's not difficult to host events other than fridge and dice luck, just the staff can't be bothered the majority of the time, and you have to ask yourselves why.