Breaking News: is this the end of fansites, goodbye Habbox?

[passion]

Hey, I used to help run HabboHut, doubt anyone remembers me, only stumbled upon my account after visiting Habbox Help Desk two days ago.

Anyway, when HabboHut was at its most popular, we needed donations to help with costs. It is very unlikely that any fansite can make a profit using these donations. That is what they are; donations. People are volunteering to give fansites some of their money. Just like some volunteer to give Habbo/Sulake their money. It is their choice. If they have dispensable income then they have every right to make their own decision about what to spend it on.

I have seen this thread and decided to do a little bit of research. I am a bit out of the loop so forgive me if any of this information is old and or no longer relevant. Habbo is very dynamic and a lot of their articles are outdated. However, this is the fansite way:

https://help.habbo.com/entries/22405...Fansite-Policy

The only clause that explicitly mentions money is the first paragraph:

Please understand that Habbo vigorously protects the Habbo IP from damaging infringement. However, pursuant to the term of this Policy, Habbo grants all of its Fan Sites the revocable permission to create Fan Sites based on Habbo IP. All Fan Sites must be tasteful (in Habbo’s sole discretion) and have no commercial (monetary) objective. Also, Habbo, in its sole discretion, can terminate and revoke your permission to create and maintain Fan Sites at any time, for any or no reason whatsoever.

I have bolded the important part. I'm guessing this is Sulake's issue. So, they believe an objective for fansites is making money. This isn't true. Anyone with any business knowledge will know this. Their objective is to serve the Habbo community. To do this they use numerous web pages. These web pages come at a cost; a cost which users can donate towards should they like to. It is a basic right for people to be able to spend their money on what they want to: a right that Habbo is currently denying. Maybe, the senior staff at Habbox need to make this clear to Sulake; outline to them what your objectives are.

It says Hidden's name is Usul. It appears to me that he has his own agenda. So I asked about if anyone knows who he is and it links back to a site: HabboLicious. So I visited this site and yes Hidden is staff on that site. So one can only guess that HabboLicious isn't official and he wishes to cripple the current official fansites. I'm not sure if it is official... I could be wrong but I can't see the emblem on their web page.

If you didn't read all of that, then: Sulake are in the wrong. The user Hidden on here has an agenda to help the site he works for.

[Samantha]

May as well just post this, no moderating going on... So I love my PC.

I started reading this, and then I began reading again at 79 replies. It's now at over 110 so please bear with me.

A silly idea and it seems that some have had their Habbo experiences ruined or their fansite ones thus they want to nit pick at everything. Firstly, Habbox are providing a service, but they are not taking money - they get it if the person wants to donate and that's that. I would understand if profit was being made each month as we all would want to see something that showed the profit, but it doesn't exist and frankly I doubt it has existed in ages.

I'm sorry, but it seems Habbo staff don't really think of things on their own as it's not too long ago that we were told we could sell VIP, but now it will infringe Habbo's plans? Ok then :rolleyes:.

[Plebings]

i know a few people have mentioned limiting the donators page, and while i doubt habbox make any sort of profit, why couldn't we just donate the surplus to charity.

[-:Undertaker:-]

There's nothing to stop me donating to Habbox - whether it's publically or privately. If it really comes down to it, then we could always have an older member like myself set up a 'fund' which could then just be passed to say xxMATTGxx as a private donation: how he would choose to spend his money would be entirely upto him.

I doubt many older members of Habbo would spend time (and money on creds) there if it weren't for fansites so I think it'd make a dent in their profits. Any legitimate fansite will never make a profit because if they did, the money they'd make would be re-invested back into the community they serve.

This applies to me too - without Habbox then I wouldn't still visit Habbo.

[Suspective]

I haven't had time to read all the posts, so apologies if this point has already been made but I don't see how Habbo can officially stop sites like Habbox taking DONATIONS which aren't compulsory in any form because at the end of the day I'm sure Habbox will survive without the 'official backing' of Habbo but at the end of the day, I'm sure Habbo won't be ending the support of donators because Habbo is very much in a state of decline by number of users, and fansites like Habbox if anything help gain support for Habbo and provide it without a lot of PR, publicity, community interaction and what not whilst keeping users engaged.

[Special]

????? you're all commenting & getting wound up about something potentially made up lol we haven't even seen any evidence of these so called conversations

okeanos' past attempts at seeping some attention out of hxf have gone unnoticed, is this his last ditch attempt??

[Okeanos]

If you didn't read all of that, then: Sulake are in the wrong. The user Hidden on here has an agenda to help the site he works for.

or sulake might have made their own decision about fansites and donator regardless of what usul said. i find it very odd that you are targeting specific habbos rather than a policy you disagree with.

[Hidden]

@Alexicles; I actually reported this before Habbolicious existed to powertoo then forwarded to waltzmatilda that took several weeks to get discussed - thanks for your incorrect input bye

[Samantha]

I think the profits should go to the staff members at Habbox, who's with me? The only problem is that if Habbox make a loss (and by the looks of it they usually do), we'd have to pay to work .

[-:Undertaker:-]

I haven't had time to read all the posts, so apologies if this point has already been made but I don't see how Habbo can officially stop sites like Habbox taking DONATIONS which aren't compulsory in any form because at the end of the day I'm sure Habbox will survive without the 'official backing' of Habbo but at the end of the day, I'm sure Habbo won't be ending the support of donators because Habbo is very much in a state of decline by number of users, and fansites like Habbox if anything help gain support for Habbo and provide it without a lot of PR, publicity, community interaction and what not whilst keeping users engaged.

As I stated before (i've just read some posts too saying more or less the same) then we could simply transfer donations to a private member, ie MattG, who could - if he wishes - transfer that money to Habbox.

Where there is a will, there's a way.