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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    $100,000 to buy people much needed things. How dare they! Absolutely disgraceful!
    Quote Originally Posted by sexpot View Post
    At least they donated something, they didn't have to donate anything. You're all acting like they had to donate something. Every little bit counts
    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Charity ceases to become charity if it becomes compulsory.
    All this^. I was flipping out at someone on Skype yesterday because of this thread. Yes it's not the largest amount they could have donated fair dos, but they still decided to donate something. Besides, if you're going to question the fact they should be donating more - why don't you encourage China to support every other charitable cause out there as it's pathetic if they don't do so supposedly. People are so ungrateful sometimes...
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    I think the people moaning at people moaning are missing the point. In terms of international aid, it IS a pathetic donation. It is particularly interesting given the supposed ties in the ASEAN community, and I do think it will come back and bite them in the future.

    Having said that, we shouldn't be surprised given the dispute currently ongoing between Philippines and China.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Intersocial View Post
    All this^. I was flipping out at someone on Skype yesterday because of this thread. Yes it's not the largest amount they could have donated fair dos, but they still decided to donate something. Besides, if you're going to question the fact they should be donating more - why don't you encourage China to support every other charitable cause out there as it's pathetic if they don't do so supposedly. People are so ungrateful sometimes...
    Quote Originally Posted by Payasam View Post
    I think the people moaning at people moaning are missing the point. In terms of international aid, it IS a pathetic donation. It is particularly interesting given the supposed ties in the ASEAN community, and I do think it will come back and bite them in the future.

    Having said that, we shouldn't be surprised given the dispute currently ongoing between Philippines and China.
    As Payasam has said, this is an international aid issue (this was a storm more powerful than hurricane Katrina remember) and is different to "every other" charitable aid issue.

    Those who are able are meant to unite together and support those in times of need and China have really let the Philippine people down here.

    Perhaps this is another reason to dislike the Chinese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payasam View Post
    I think the people moaning at people moaning are missing the point. In terms of international aid, it IS a pathetic donation. It is particularly interesting given the supposed ties in the ASEAN community, and I do think it will come back and bite them in the future.

    Having said that, we shouldn't be surprised given the dispute currently ongoing between Philippines and China.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardemax View Post
    As Payasam has said, this is an international aid issue (this was a storm more powerful than hurricane Katrina remember) and is different to "every other" charitable aid issue.

    Those who are able are meant to unite together and support those in times of need and China have really let the Philippine people down here.

    Perhaps this is another reason to dislike the Chinese.
    So basically, you're both saying $100,000 = $0?

    I'm sure the Philippines are grateful for any money they get and have a lot more to worry about right now then China trying to be awkward and making a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    So basically, you're both saying $100,000 = $0?

    I'm sure the Philippines are grateful for any money they get and have a lot more to worry about right now then China trying to be awkward and making a point.
    Yes, because my post says $100,000 = 0. I am merely saying on a relative scale it is very very little - this is international aid, not your student debts (ie. $100k would be a lot to you, but nothing in this context).

    It just seems like this is more of a political insult by China, rather than an actual desire to help.


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    I know it isn't right to make any comparison but in support of China, this was Philippines' reaction to 2008 Sichuan Earthquake



    69,195 people had died. Many more injured and millions homeless.
    anyway


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    chinese ppl r stingy. i know 1 that uses his 10% staff discount when he spends 18p on a reduced item at the end of the day in the store (and he literally spent 18p that is the total cost of his shop)

    and he even went to the customer service once to get the extra money back when 1 of his reduced items went through at 18p instead of 9p

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    Quote Originally Posted by subo View Post
    chinese ppl r stingy. i know 1 that uses his 10% staff discount when he spends 18p on a reduced item at the end of the day in the store (and he literally spent 18p that is the total cost of his shop)

    and he even went to the customer service once to get the extra money back when 1 of his reduced items went through at 18p instead of 9p
    I would probably do the same - why spend money you don't need to?

    Quote Originally Posted by karter View Post
    I know it isn't right to make any comparison but in support of China, this was Philippines' reaction to 2008 Sichuan Earthquake



    69,195 people had died. Many more injured and millions homeless.
    Important to look at the GDP of each country though - China's is 8.27 TRILLION, compared to Philippines 250 BILLION.

    Having said that, the only reason the Chinese invest in Africa is to get natural resources... :L


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    Quote Originally Posted by Payasam View Post
    Yes, because my post says $100,000 = 0. I am merely saying on a relative scale it is very very little - this is international aid, not your student debts (ie. $100k would be a lot to you, but nothing in this context).

    It just seems like this is more of a political insult by China, rather than an actual desire to help.
    You said $100,000 is a pathetic donation. Surely $0 is even more pathetic? The Philippines need as much money as they can get. Yes, it's a very little amount, and yes, it probably is because they are currently in land disputes but right now they need everything they can get. They've got better things to do with their time then moan that China didn't give them as much money as other countries.

    And what do you say about countries that haven't donated anything at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    You said $100,000 is a pathetic donation. Surely $0 is even more pathetic? The Philippines need as much money as they can get. Yes, it's a very little amount, and yes, it probably is because they are currently in land disputes but right now they need everything they can get. They've got better things to do with their time then moan that China didn't give them as much money as other countries.

    And what do you say about countries that haven't donated anything at all?
    I was going to say in my previous post about the question you've just asked.

    If I was in a restaurant, I would consider it an insult to the waiter if I left them a 2p tip (or anything else that was seriously low compared to the value of the bill). I don't think China were obliged to give anything, and I never said that at all - I just think it is more of a stab at the Philippines than anything else.


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