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    There's a lot of admin work in each department that is vital to keeping things ticking and the seniors are often those trusted to help out with that. Giving someone a title that has no meaning would only appeal to the ambitious in the department who often work hard anyway with their eyes on the manager prize. That and it's even more likely to be a role for the best friend rather than the best worker in the department. At least when there are roles attached, managers have to think twice about just giving it away to anyone because those tasks need to be done.

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    Don't people tend to know who the longer serving staff members in a department are anyway? Having the word senior tacked onto their usertitle would in half the departments mean nothing since you don't get paid or anything anyway. Also if you had a really really good team that worked amazingly with each other for a long time you'd end up with a department of all seniors

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    Maybe it can be used after X months in the smaller departments then? A bit like Habbox merit. Would stop it just being given out to favourites and would actually reward hard workers, and it *might* stop so many people from dipping in and out of every other department so many times. I mean, you're right, it would mean pretty much nothing, but it's just a nice incentive. Anyways, doesn't sound like it would be needed much anyway if content is getting a senior soon anyway. Would only leave graphics and comps? Just an idea anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inseriousity. View Post
    If there is no faith in said AGMs then I would say it applies to all of them as you need backbone to fire them too. Patiently twiddling thumbs and waiting for them to resign (which Matt did with me) isn't good enough either.
    Good point about the seniors though. True story about the assistant competitions manager role. Alex3213 was my senior for ages and it wasn't until a staff quota was introduced that excluded managers that he was "promoted" to assistant manager. He had the exact same role but it just allowed me to have an extra member of staff (although obviously Alex was a great manager/senior too so he deserved the title as well!).
    I'm saying nothing, tbh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    Maybe it can be used after X months in the smaller departments then? A bit like Habbox merit. Would stop it just being given out to favourites and would actually reward hard workers, and it *might* stop so many people from dipping in and out of every other department so many times. I mean, you're right, it would mean pretty much nothing, but it's just a nice incentive. Anyways, doesn't sound like it would be needed much anyway if content is getting a senior soon anyway. Would only leave graphics and comps? Just an idea anyway
    This would probably cause a lot of commotion and is also an unneeded promotion and a time waste, IMO. Like has been said above, it's pretty obvious who's been in the department for longer and who is the most experienced. It would be wrong to give someone a senior role based on the X amounts of months they've been there. The position is given to an entrusted staff member to help out with smaller management duties, thus making the manager's job easier. It seems pointless giving a "senior" role to someone with absolutely no benefits whatsoever. Or is there something I've missed?

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    Competitions COULD have a senior, which would just go round having a bit more authority but not much, I mean, it could help but there's no real NEED for it I guess? Graphics, the same, as Nick's an international manager and half the staff are GMT it would be good to have a senior who could give feedback and things but I know as normal staff, I do this anyway.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Skynus View Post
    I'm saying nothing, tbh.



    This would probably cause a lot of commotion and is also an unneeded promotion and a time waste, IMO. Like has been said above, it's pretty obvious who's been in the department for longer and who is the most experienced. It would be wrong to give someone a senior role based on the X amounts of months they've been there. The position is given to an entrusted staff member to help out with smaller management duties, thus making the manager's job easier. It seems pointless giving a "senior" role to someone with absolutely no benefits whatsoever. Or is there something I've missed?
    No, it's just a bad idea

    But why do we have senior staff in News and Rare Values then? They're the two smallest departments, and to be fair, probably have the least workload.

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    Competitions couldn't have a senior unless you have 2 assistant managers as I've already explained they're interchangeable and the department is small enough that if a manager goes away for a bit then the department is small enough to manage with just one. I don't really think the lack of progression is the cause of the high staff turnover for news/content/graphics, especially not news as they actually do have seniors (well heads but same thing really). It's because they're highly skilled roles that require a lot of effort. Most people can write competitions, host an event, help out in hxhd. It takes someone who genuinely wants to be there and write/make graphics to last long in those departments. I would say creating roles for the sake of having them would actually do more harm than good as there'd be a lot of resentment and frustration built up and the reason I think competitions (I can only really talk extensively about this one) gets on so well is that it often doesn't attract the ambitious and/or powerhungry types precisely because there isn't much room for progression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    No, it's just a bad idea

    But why do we have senior staff in News and Rare Values then? They're the two smallest departments, and to be fair, probably have the least workload.
    One of the two comes with helpful roles. The other, well the manager needs aid. An assistant could in fact be promoted there, however, but I think it would be better to leave as a senior position. At least, for now.

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    you'd of had like 1 more person in 5 departments if you didn't fire me -cries
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