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    Quote Originally Posted by karter View Post
    Minus 50 degrees Celsius in international falls, Minnesota
    I'm from MN also. No clue what the temp is here, but I know it's fcking cold and I don't want to risk dying by going outside. This is just ridiculous.

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    and I thought the weather in the UK was bad.

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    lol at some chicago schools still open my schools closed for a week as soon as the temperature hit zero
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    the school I went to only closed a few times but because it was too hot, never too cold

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    I feel bad complaining about our storms in the UK now...

    bella ciao

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    Great (and funny) article out this morning from Dellers -

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...tates-america/

    Global Warming devastates America


    Soon children will have forgotten what snow looks like...

    Quote Originally Posted by James Delingpole, Telegraph
    See that white stuff floating down past the orange trees and landing on your alligators and manatees, Florida? That's global warming, that is.

    See that frozen white thing by the harbor that used to look a green woman with a spiky headdress, New York? That's global warming, that is.

    See that chilling solid yellow stream extending upwards from the snowy ground to your shrivelling blackened member after you made the very wrong call to take an al fresco leak, Chicagoans? That's global warming, that is.

    How do we know this? Because Bryan Walsh of Time magazine says so:

    But not only does the cold spell not disprove climate change, it may well be that global warming could be making the occasional bout of extreme cold weather in the U.S. even more likely. Right now much of the U.S. is in the grip of a polar vortex, which is pretty much what it sounds like: a whirlwind of extremely cold, extremely dense air that forms near the poles. Usually the fast winds in the vortex—which can top 100 mph (161 k/h)—keep that cold air locked up in the Arctic. But when the winds weaken, the vortex can begin to wobble like a drunk on his fourth martini, and the Arctic air can escape and spill southward, bringing Arctic weather with it. In this case, nearly the entire polar vortex has tumbled southward, leading to record-breaking cold….
    And, of course, so does the Guardian say so….

    While the ongoing cold snap is breaking records from Minnesota to Florida, it will not go down in history as the most significant Arctic outbreak in U.S. history, not even by a longshot. Scientists said the deep freeze gripping the U.S. does not indicate a halt or reversal in global warming trends, either. In fact, it may be a counterintuitive example of global warming in action.
    Everything's global warming, America. Didn't you get the message yet from your President and John Kerry and Al Gore and James Hansen and the gang? Everything! That's why, if ever any of you want to see a day of sunshine again in your miserable, too-selfish-to-change-your-lifestyle carbon-addicted lives, here are a few things you absolutely are going to have to do: permanently reject the Keystone XL pipeline; beg your president for more green taxes and regulations; plead for more of your money to be diverted to successful clean energy businesses like Solyndra and Fisker electric cars; insist that more bald eagle nesting trees be chopped down in order to clear a space for wind farms; demand that the Heartland Institute and the Competitive Enterprise Institute be defunded and that Marc Morano, Anthony Watts and Pat Michaels be executed. Oh, and definitely torch the premises of evil, right-wing conspirator-publisher Regnery for producing filth like this terrible book which suggests the caring, nurturing environmental movement has dangerously fascistic tendencies….

    Alternatively, if you want to go on deluding yourself that the current cold snap in the US is what's known as "winter" and has nothing whatsoever to do with man-made climate change then you might draw some comfort from these words from Princeton physicist Prof William Happer.

    Polar vortices have been around forever. They have almost nothing to do with more CO2 in the atmosphere.
    Not just that – but without polar vortices, America might look a very different country today, possibly with many times more CCTV cameras, much poorer dental care, and with cricket as its national summer sport instead of baseball.

    About this time of year in 1777, just before the Battle of Princeton, there was a similar sequence. On January 2, Cornwallis’s men marched south from New York City through cold rain and muddy roads to try to trap George Washington and his little Continental Army in Trenton . On the night of January 2-3, a polar vortex swept across New Jersey, with snow and a very hard freeze. Aided by the extremely cold weather, Washington was able to evacuate his troops and artillery over newly frozen roads and to avoid Cornwallis’s encirclement. Reaching Princeton on the viciously cold morning of January 3, Washington won another battle against the British and escaped to winter quarters in Morristown. Thank you polar vortex!
    And here's what meteorologist Dr Ryan Maue says on Twitter:

    This #polarvortex episode is the global warming media's most recent "Snapchat" message: after a few seconds, explanation just dissolves
    And here's the uncompromising verdict of meteorologist Dr Roy Spencer (h/t The Hockey Schtick)

    Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold?

    January 6th, 2014 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.

    NO.
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    You do realise that global warming refers to an increase of average global temperatures over time, right? And that places are allowed to be cold?

    You simply can't go 'LOL ITS SNOWING SO GLOBAL WARMING DOESNT EXIST' - That's a really childish way of looking at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    You do realise that global warming refers to an increase of average global temperatures over time, right? And that places are allowed to be cold?

    You simply can't go 'LOL ITS SNOWING SO GLOBAL WARMING DOESNT EXIST' - That's a really childish way of looking at it.
    We're simply doing what the global warmists (now called climate change advocates) did a few years ago when we had heatwaves which was claim that the heatwaves were due to global warming. Remember? 50 days to save the world and all of that garbage we were fed. That's why they've changed the phrase see - because with climate change, no matter what the weather they win. Very clever tactic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    We're simply doing what the global warmists (now called climate change advocates) did a few years ago when we had heatwaves which was claim that the heatwaves were due to global warming. Remember? 50 days to save the world and all of that garbage we were fed. That's why they've changed the phrase see - because with climate change, no matter what the weather they win. Very clever tactic.
    A simple reason for that, global warming is happening. The globe is warming up gradually over time. So the name stands. Global warming doesn't include the changes to climate that we're experiencing more often. Deadlier hurricanes, more floods etc. Just because they changed the name, it doesn't give any less credibility to global warming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    A simple reason for that, global warming is happening. The globe is warming up gradually over time. So the name stands. Global warming doesn't include the changes to climate that we're experiencing more often. Deadlier hurricanes, more floods etc. Just because they changed the name, it doesn't give any less credibility to global warming.
    So in other words, whenever there is a stronger hurricane/warmer summer etc it's down to global warming but whenever there's the opposite then that too is down to global warming. Essentially it's saying that weather = caused by man.

    I love how whenever sceptics link the cold weather to proving/disproving man-made climate change we are shot down, yet you lot are allowed free reign to claim that whatever weather event is happening is down to global warming ... even if you don't provide any evidence for it what-so-ever just as Andrew Neil and others have pointed out in regards to this vortex over the US right now.

    Pro-AGW scientists claim the ice is shrinking yet when it's expanding and they get stuck and I point this out, i'm wrong. But when you all say that this cold weather over the US is due to climate change - with no proof what so ever - it's accepted as fact without question. Amazing but unbelievable really.
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