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    Private enterprise should be free to do what it wants in a free society - it's not the business of the state to regulate plastic bag policy.


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    Where does the 5p go? If it's just extra money for the company then no... but if they spend it on eco things then sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skandair View Post
    Where does the 5p go? If it's just extra money for the company then no... but if they spend it on eco things then sure.
    When you and everybody else in this thread owns and operates a business then you should be able to decide to charge for plastic bags and pss it up the wall on 'eco' causes... until then, everyone should stop meddling in what is none of their business. Literally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    When you and everybody else in this thread owns and operates a business then you should be able to decide to charge for plastic bags and pss it up the wall on 'eco' causes... until then, everyone should stop meddling in what is none of their business. Literally.
    To be honest if the law says something and it goes through doesn't that mean most people agree with it? If so, the defence wasn't good enough lol.

    If Tesco doesn't like it then they can stop trading in the UK I guess... :L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skandair View Post
    To be honest if the law says something and it goes through doesn't that mean most people agree with it? If so, the defence wasn't good enough lol.

    If Tesco doesn't like it then they can stop trading in the UK I guess... :L
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    Seems a bit pointless. Re-usable bags are alive and well and many people use them now. M&S have always had the company policy to charge 5p for plastic bags so I don't see why Tesco, Sainsbury's and other store can't just opt to do the same if they feel it is a good idea. Having the Government push it seems a bit too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Having a democratic majority doesn't mean a nation and it's people are free. Liberty (freedom of the individual) makes a nation and a people free. 60% of the country could vote to murder/rob the other 40%, that wouldn't make it right though, would it? It's time people backed off and stopped telling others what to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Seems a bit pointless. Re-usable bags are alive and well and many people use them now. M&S have always had the company policy to charge 5p for plastic bags so I don't see why Tesco, Sainsbury's and other store can't just opt to do the same if they feel it is a good idea. Having the Government push it seems a bit too much.
    This.

    You also get charged in lidl and aldi iirc.
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    i dont understand why any1 would be against it tbh. ppl are irresponsible and use unnecessary amounts of plastic carrier bags for no gd reason when they go shopping, i see it first hand. reducing the amount of carrier bags we use will improve the GLOBAL environment and its in EVERY1S interest to do that. this little push clearly reduces the amount of carrier bags used by a substantial amount (look at wales they reduced carrier bag usage by 90% in 6 months) and it makes next to no difference to our lives. so wat its being forced on us? that doesnt matter because like i said it makes virtually no change to any1s life and it is for a gd cause
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayden View Post
    This.

    You also get charged in lidl and aldi iirc.
    On a somewhat related note, I went into an lidl/aldi (can't remember which) with a friend and I was totally shocked - you don't even get your bags packed for you, nor can you even pack bags at the counter, there's a separate bagging area - I mean, what's up with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by subo View Post
    i dont understand why any1 would be against it tbh. ppl are irresponsible and use unnecessary amounts of plastic carrier bags for no gd reason when they go shopping, i see it first hand. reducing the amount of carrier bags we use will improve the GLOBAL environment and its in EVERY1S interest to do that. this little push clearly reduces the amount of carrier bags used by a substantial amount (look at wales they reduced carrier bag usage by 90% in 6 months) and it makes next to no difference to our lives. so wat its being forced on us? that doesnt matter because like i said it makes virtually no change to any1s life and it is for a gd cause
    But surely the decreased usage in plastic bags in England is going to have very little impact, if any, on the global environment. Also worth noting that a drop in carrier bag usage does not equal an equivalent drop in carrier bag littering.
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