Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing Plane

[xxMATTGxx]

I know I should be asleep...
TCAS relies on the transponder being on. If they switched their transponder off, they'd have been invisible to the other aircrafts TCAS. However. To fool primary radar into thinking they were the same aircraft, you'd be looking at a couple of hundred feet together - not likely.

Yeah I know that but to do that in night time would be somewhat amazing.

[buttons]

what u guys think of this? is likely they dropped in order to see better and couldn't see and that's why they went a different route?


America's former head of air security believes the crew of missing flight MH370 died heroically trying to save the plane from a fire.


Billie Vincent, former head of security for the Federal Aviation Administration throughout the 1980s, has dismissed theories of a terror attack or suicide mission.


Instead he believes the pilots struggled to save their aircraft after a blaze in the cargo hold until they were eventually overcome by smoke.


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Mr Vincent, who was an expert witness in the Lockerbie bombing trial, said: “The data released thus far most likely points to a problem with hazardous materials.


“This scenario begins with the eruption of hazardous materials within the cargo hold – either improperly packaged or illegally shipped – or both.”


Mr Vincent believes a fire started in the cargo hold and gradually destroyed the plane’s communications systems.


He says toxic fumes would have quickly overwhelmed the passengers and cockpit.


Mr Vincent guesses that one of the pilots managed to put on an oxygen mask and tried to turn the plane back to Kuala Lumpur.


He puts the plane’s rapid ascent and descent down to the crew simply not being able to see properly until they manage to stabilise at 23,000 ft.


Mr Vincent added: “The airplane then continues flying until no fuel remains and crashes – most likely into the ocean as there has been no report of any Emergency Locater Transmitter (ELT) signal which can be received by satellite if the crash were on land.”


And Mr Vincent, who played a key role in negotiations after the hijackings of US planes during the 1980s, insists it is unlikely the aircraft was sabotaged.


He said: “There is no indication that either of the pilots was criminally involved in the disappearance of this aeroplane.


“Neither has Malaysia released any data indicating anything amiss in the security clearance of the passengers for this flight.


“The one question raised about the two passengers travelling on stolen passports has been cleared indicating that they were planning on illegally claiming refugee status in another country, probably Germany.


“I have yet to see anything released about the nature and content of the cargo carried in the cargo hold of MH370.


“Hazardous cargo can be legally carried on passenger aircraft. However, the amount and type of such hazardous materials are strictly controlled.”






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[lemons]

on kissfm they said the families of the passengers are threatening to go on hunger strike unless they find out more info

[wixard]

@buttons; I'd absolutely love to believe that story and really don't want to put a black mark on either pilots name but the fact is they switched off their systems before last communication, why woild they do that

[Calum0812]

@buttons; I'd absolutely love to believe that story and really don't want to put a black mark on either pilots name but the fact is they switched off their systems before last communication, why woild they do that

I think the source is suggesting the fire would've taken out said systems (stored in the avionics gay forward of the cargo hold I believe)

[Kardan]

what u guys think of this? is likely they dropped in order to see better and couldn't see and that's why they went a different route?


America's former head of air security believes the crew of missing flight MH370 died heroically trying to save the plane from a fire.


Billie Vincent, former head of security for the Federal Aviation Administration throughout the 1980s, has dismissed theories of a terror attack or suicide mission.


Instead he believes the pilots struggled to save their aircraft after a blaze in the cargo hold until they were eventually overcome by smoke.


Latest updates on search for missing jet
Mr Vincent, who was an expert witness in the Lockerbie bombing trial, said: “The data released thus far most likely points to a problem with hazardous materials.


“This scenario begins with the eruption of hazardous materials within the cargo hold – either improperly packaged or illegally shipped – or both.”


Mr Vincent believes a fire started in the cargo hold and gradually destroyed the plane’s communications systems.


He says toxic fumes would have quickly overwhelmed the passengers and cockpit.


Mr Vincent guesses that one of the pilots managed to put on an oxygen mask and tried to turn the plane back to Kuala Lumpur.


He puts the plane’s rapid ascent and descent down to the crew simply not being able to see properly until they manage to stabilise at 23,000 ft.


Mr Vincent added: “The airplane then continues flying until no fuel remains and crashes – most likely into the ocean as there has been no report of any Emergency Locater Transmitter (ELT) signal which can be received by satellite if the crash were on land.”


And Mr Vincent, who played a key role in negotiations after the hijackings of US planes during the 1980s, insists it is unlikely the aircraft was sabotaged.


He said: “There is no indication that either of the pilots was criminally involved in the disappearance of this aeroplane.


“Neither has Malaysia released any data indicating anything amiss in the security clearance of the passengers for this flight.


“The one question raised about the two passengers travelling on stolen passports has been cleared indicating that they were planning on illegally claiming refugee status in another country, probably Germany.


“I have yet to see anything released about the nature and content of the cargo carried in the cargo hold of MH370.


“Hazardous cargo can be legally carried on passenger aircraft. However, the amount and type of such hazardous materials are strictly controlled.”






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Mr Vincent guesses

That says it all really, although it is a different theory to what everyone else is saying - but is there even evidence of hazardous materials on board the plane?

[Calum0812]

That says it all really, although it is a different theory to what everyone else is saying - but is there even evidence of hazardous materials on board the plane?

“I have yet to see anything released about the nature and content of the cargo carried in the cargo hold of MH370"

I guess not, hopefully they'll release this kind of info soon

[scottish]

Aren't the systems that were turned off in different locations though?

I'm sure there was an image showing where each part is, and there's like one in the wing, one at the back?

So if it was smoke surely it would maybe take out one but not multiple?

Nice theory (well as nice a theory as you can get) instead of jumping on the hijacking/pilot though.

[GommeInc]

Does anyone else find these theories sensationalist and somewhat offensive? Accurate information is more likely to come from Malaysian Authorities. Why the media is asking people from different jurisdictions about their "ideas" is absurd.

[scottish]

probably for new stories and everyone thinks Malaysian authorities are hiding info, so useful to get outside views on the event.

I don't mind stories like that where they're guessing what happened or from experts, but when they have people claiming they know what happened it's counterproductive and annoying.