Do something BIG Habbox!

[karter]

literally nobody uses rare values and no one will use it ever plzzz its a waste of time

[Grig]

You say do something big and I fully agree. I mentioned this point in some feedback thread quite a while ago.

As for podcasts and this newsletter, I was heavily involved in both. We tried doing podcasts in 2008, and that was a pretty cool idea. It was basically stuff related to HxL- so that would be music review, chart roundup etc. It got stopped to it required one golden thing, effort and no one could be bothered to continue, so that was that.

Then there was the newsletter, in which I had to sit there listening to 5 year old arguments over who would get the music section. I swear this lasted days and can't remember how we resolved this at the end of the day. It was a brilliant concept and we had writers, not sure how strong they are now. My guess would be not really. If you don't have people who can write in an engaging way, that idea becomes more difficult to execute. I'm sure if it's expanded to being a more Habbox-wide thing, involving the community, then it could work out really well. Heck, I don't even mind writing or editing stuff if need be.

It is in a state of limbo atm, and this thread does get you to reflect, but where is Habbox now? People are too complacent, too status quo. Then when I accuse them of being status quo, they say no no no and a few days later end up recycling an idea. That is the problem and it's a deeply embedded ethos.

Yesterday, I decided to check out ThisHabbo for the first time in ages. Their radio was at the same level as Hx', but everything else is stronger. In actual fact, they were complaining why events was so dead even though they had an event at the time with 40 people. To them, that was not good enough. Now you can see how deeply Habbox has faltered. We have loads of great people here who all have their hearts in the right places, but it takes more than that.

Another example, is I go on to a very well forum integrated news department over there and see it being on the front-lines, i.e. one of their key department that is popular and well respected- the complete antithesis of Habbox' news department at present. This brings me to the point, where are the changes at news that have been in discussion and I recall @FlyingJesus; bringing this up every few months. You had a manager who failed to achieve that, yet got promoted and the department is in limbo and has been for years now. The problem is acknowledged, but we have no one gutsy enough to implement this. Rather, again, it goes back to the status quo.

[Tyler]

well yeah, radio and forum things wont get people because u need to be on the site to see it. Ofcause u need inhabbo things

(Waits for people to moan at me)

[Grig]

well yeah, radio and forum things wont get people because u need to be on the site to see it. Ofcause u need inhabbo things

(Waits for people to moan at me)

Incorrect, radio gets more 'new' people than any other department. HxL also hires more new staff who were never with Habbox before but stay and become great members of the community. Your argument makes no sense and seems invalid here!

[Kardan]

What I don't understand is people bickering about who gets what. As a manager, they should just delegate, and if they don't like it, tell them to deal with it.

[Samantha]

You say do something big and I fully agree. I mentioned this point in some feedback thread quite a while ago.

As for podcasts and this newsletter, I was heavily involved in both. We tried doing podcasts in 2008, and that was a pretty cool idea. It was basically stuff related to HxL- so that would be music review, chart roundup etc. It got stopped to it required one golden thing, effort and no one could be bothered to continue, so that was that.

Then there was the newsletter, in which I had to sit there listening to 5 year old arguments over who would get the music section. I swear this lasted days and can't remember how we resolved this at the end of the day. It was a brilliant concept and we had writers, not sure how strong they are now. My guess would be not really. If you don't have people who can write in an engaging way, that idea becomes more difficult to execute. I'm sure if it's expanded to being a more Habbox-wide thing, involving the community, then it could work out really well. Heck, I don't even mind writing or editing stuff if need be.

It is in a state of limbo atm, and this thread does get you to reflect, but where is Habbox now? People are too complacent, too status quo. Then when I accuse them of being status quo, they say no no no and a few days later end up recycling an idea. That is the problem and it's a deeply embedded ethos.

Yesterday, I decided to check out ThisHabbo for the first time in ages. Their radio was at the same level as Hx', but everything else is stronger. In actual fact, they were complaining why events was so dead even though they had an event at the time with 40 people. To them, that was not good enough. Now you can see how deeply Habbox has faltered. We have loads of great people here who all have their hearts in the right places, but it takes more than that.

Another example, is I go on to a very well forum integrated news department over there and see it being on the front-lines, i.e. one of their key department that is popular and well respected- the complete antithesis of Habbox' news department at present. This brings me to the point, where are the changes at news that have been in discussion and I recall @FlyingJesus; bringing this up every few months. You had a manager who failed to achieve that, yet got promoted and the department is in limbo and has been for years now. The problem is acknowledged, but we have no one gutsy enough to implement this. Rather, again, it goes back to the status quo.

Oh, you were there too - I don't think it even got sorted, it sort of fizzled out and the time and work spent was wasted as I remember @dey:; making great graphics for the sections like *your* Twitter section (I can't remember if the Twitter part was yours).

Also, going to go through the thread again and add to my reply whilst I am free .

[wixard]

no no no

stick to the status quo

[Samantha]

Let's see, I probably won't have commented on everything (might have missed them), however, I'll try my best .

@Skandair; unfortunately, the on Habbo events do bring in new faces, especially ones such as HxSS with how big a scale event it is - I think this comes from the team aspect and it being the biggest event we do. However, the other such as I'm a Habbo, and HabboxStarz to some extent then it's mainly (not fully, but mainly) a way to interest the users that already come on here, although HabboxStarz has seen some new faces coming and entering and doing pretty well! The ideas are needed though, I definitely agree with that and I think everyone who is promoted to say management/general management should and usually do have some ideas of what they want to see come from their experience in the role and I think @Inseriousity.; is one of the main examples here - Habbox wouldn't have had some of the great ideas when he was Competitions Manager/AGM without him, but I think we do have a good enough team to come up with more creative and unique ones. Additionally, some of the ideas do crop up again and again, but this comes down to various factors, perhaps they worked well last time (not to say they'd work well again of course), got a good turn out/entries or it might just be to help advertise the department more in which senior members will look at what that said department has done before if that makes sense. I also think the radio is a great contributor to gaining more members, especially as it's usually up over 160 hours a week and it was no where near that before! Understandably, Habbo isn't what it used to be, but fansite members are what keeps Habbo popular too usually, especially since a lot of people would have stopped playing ages ago if not. I look at it this way too, if HabboxLive is up for instance, they have listeners and even if only one of those join the forum then that's a bonus - an idea could be offering tokens for on air competitions as an alternative (for whatever reason a DJ can't provide a Habbo prize, or perhaps they didn't meet the listener requirement they wanted). @Despect; @Phil;.

@cameron; I agree with that, you can almost guarantee usually that another fansite or another Habbo member (or even Habbox) have already done X event or Y competition, but even if it's not unique/we don't know if it's unique we can always take a risk (like a lot of things that will help in the long run) and see what happens.

@sex; I'd love for you to submit that as an official room, especially with how popular I see rooms like that even when owners aren't present. I'm sure it would be a great addition alongside the other 2 rooms recently added (more on that soon).

@Skandair; big events are on the horizon and it might be quiet until Easter (why does it have to be so late this year?) However, it's not just the big events that bring people to Habbox, it's the members and the departments too. I don't really think we need an app as such, as there are alternatives such as TapaTalk and TunedIn already out there that allow members to browse and listen to Habbox all they want. Working with Habbo communities could be interesting, as long as that community doesn't break the Habbo Way - I'm currently thinking rooms such as Casinos that could potentially be banned in the future and such, but I wouldn't be set against involving Habbox with them - after all it does get the word out. It's a little like official rooms, but it would be more we go to them instead of the other way round. Not sure if you're being serious about AdBlock anyway.

Also, your point about AGMs coming up with stuff - I said a bit further up in my post that people who get promoted should have views on how they'd like to run things, the department they're running or in some cases departments. The ideas they have or come up with could be done in a variety of ways on or off Habbo (or it might be internally, thus you might not see it), but they're usually there. I don't think it's solely up to AGMs though, as when we plan bigger events the departments usually come up with their own ideas, also if they want more advertising for just their department then they will plan something themselves too.

@Inseriousity.; I definitely agree with this, Habbo advertisement is key and I've been speaking to @Mk,; about this tonight as we've noticed a decrease in events being hosted for whatever reason. We have also gone on with your point @Skandair; about gaining more staff too and we came up with a few ideas that could potentially improve the staffing levels we have at the moment (which may get them applying for other roles and not just Events Organiser) and the word on Habbo about Habbox.

One of the main ideas we thought of was an auto game, not a run exactly, but somewhere to play if there's no event on - such as Rock, Paper, Scissors, Connect 4 etc. as this could/would be an official Habbox room too, we can get messages in there asking people to apply for staff and join the forum and the DJ on air could possibly go in there if they wish, so if they didn't hold a competition the listeners wouldn't be bored either.
Reviving the recommendation thread they have - this involves going into the rooms of those hosting normal Habbo games, but not generally working for a fansite, it's worked before plus, if they're friends they may be more inclined to see what happens when volunteering at one and help each other out. Also with this, we get new ideas and fresh faces which is also always needed instead of recycling older members who may not be interested anymore.
When I was in the Competitions Department we advertised the competitions on the welcome threads, and this could easily be done for events (and all the departments at Habbox) as the new members will usually look at the thread they made, see who's welcomed them and then see the link for the Habbox jobs, which ultimately may interest them.
Also, I know Lewis is currently planning something for Easter and also was planning another project for Christmas, but hopefully when/if these go live at some point it would be great to see them continue on in the future.
Finally, weekly events, I believe there's currently one which is a Carnival in one room - a nice idea and a bit different to some we've seen before, the incentive of VIP too if you win is interesting as to gain it you need to sign up to the forum. I know this really does help though as it's what got me to sign up too.

@FlyingJesus; I'm not sure what V7 is meant to achieve, but it would be great to see a new look to Habbox and it's much needed. I also agree about the app. Also, Rare Values is used even if many think it's not, I'm not just saying it either - if you're into trading like I am, sometimes you get people coming into your shop saying they go by Habbox or ask if you do, I've had it too many times to count and although I haven't seen it too recently (I haven't been trading as much), I still think there's a need for it. However, the values that can't/aren't reported by the MarketPlace do need to be pushed more, which I believe they're doing sort of - especially with members reporting various LTD/super rare values.

@Kardan; Rare Values had coding requests in 2010?/2011 which were never done, apparently it also went live without being completely finished which has just made it utterly rubbish to work with on the admin side. Ideally, I think @Mr-Trainor; and all ex management who used it would like it to have a normal week (not Sunday - Saturday), actually give accurate update values and not count them on to the next week depending when they were gone through (this is what I wanted changing, but I got told that GM would have to be contacted to make 'such a change'). Also, for years we were told that X or Y wasn't possible which hindered the development a lot in terms of updating, accuracy and moving on to ensure players used us still. It wasn't until @Chippiewill; came along that we got told, hold on you can actually do that (and it was ******* easy to do) - now we can accurately report items less than 1c, those sold mainly at say 2 for 3c/3 for 5c etc. and also LTD values, although this is an average currently! However, no I don't think it gets developed anymore, but it has had jobs needing to be done that probably still aren't.

@FlyingJesus; I never said I couldn't be bothered with the awards, I was awaiting replies to PMs and I wanted to send them all on the same date as really that's fair on all winners then the others aren't waiting. The excuses I've made in the past have been true though, especially the most recent as I have had to take some time off due to unforseen circumstances which have been occurring about a month and now I am back and willing more than ever to work in making sure Habbox can be the best again. The last big event we did was Christmas, but I was given that duty a week before as Jade had just resigned from the role. As I remember, the Christmas activities included Santa's List from the Competitions Department, which was done as a run up to the bonanza, the Help Desk did a mini quest that ran everyday for a period of time - this was where something was changed in the HxHD each day and you had to PM what it was, we had Christmas Karaoke and the Christmas Ball held by the HxL department. Also, the events department did an advent sort of game whereby if you won you won a prize, which could be forum awards, rep, vip, rares, tokens, credits etc. finaly, the Content Department did Santa's Grotto. Admittedly, it wasn't the best mainly due to not having much time between being promoted and Christmas, but I think we pulled through it pretty well.

[FlyingJesus]

What's the current situation with events funding? I saw 3 people earlier today mention in passing that they were going to resign soon because they can't afford to carry on giving prizes. As far as I'm aware there's been 0% done about increasing the inflow of credits to Habbox (and then to the departments that need them) despite it being a perennial problem. I know there's a worry at the moment that casino type rooms could go under at any time but if so that's even more reason to set up odds-beating gambling rooms for official Habbox purposes before the opportunity is lost to us; grabbers, more lotteries (potentially short-term ones of let's say 2c to enter, and then at 6 people you roll a die to see who wins a 10c jackpot to draw in funds from those who aren't going to bother signing up and waiting), dice blackjack etc

[Lewis]

What's the current situation with events funding? I saw 3 people earlier today mention in passing that they were going to resign soon because they can't afford to carry on giving prizes. As far as I'm aware there's been 0% done about increasing the inflow of credits to Habbox (and then to the departments that need them) despite it being a perennial problem. I know there's a worry at the moment that casino type rooms could go under at any time but if so that's even more reason to set up odds-beating gambling rooms for official Habbox purposes before the opportunity is lost to us; grabbers, more lotteries (potentially short-term ones of let's say 2c to enter, and then at 6 people you roll a die to see who wins a 10c jackpot to draw in funds from those who aren't going to bother signing up and waiting), dice blackjack etc

Not sure what you're saying, do you mean events staff can't afford prizes? If that's the case, they know I can always help them out with prizes and I've told that to them numerous times. Alongside that, we do have a funding system. So I'm not sure why that's the case.