I'm a Habbo... Feedback

[Kyle]

Thanks to Kardan (and Scott for reaping the 40 tokens for a post that he didn't write!!!) for laying out the event chronologically so as to make it a little easier to digest and even easier to point out the flaws.

Not much was really said about it and the run up was more of a brisk walk. Creating a few graphics does not equal creating a hype. Personally, I have signatures disabled so IDK if it was being advertised in those like the normal big events (HXSS etc) are but it would be nice to have seen more images and links to the event all over the site. What would actually happen during the event wasn't really (not even loosely) outlined anywhere and my own experience is that it felt like Phil was just bumbling along, posting tasks when he was free and not really devoting as much time as the sole host (with the exception of e5 and nick who participated for all of 10-15 posts on the ant/dec accounts) of an event like this should have done.

The choosing of participants was a little weird and by not BCCing names in reply to applicants everybody was aware of who had applied and it was easy enough to predict who would be entering next. After seeing the distribution of participants through both camps I think we can all come to the consensus that allowing us to choose who we had with us was a bad idea. Those who were quickest at tasks picked those that they thought would also be good with tasks or more entertaining to be stuck with, leaving the other camp with slow or boring people. Picking campmates was all about self interest and what could be gained or how to disadvantage the other team (putting cornbix with them, for example) and no regard for how this could impact on the potential audience. As a result, Plasto Plateau was populated with the most active forum members and Loser Lake were given the dregs that we didn't want. Perhaps if the organiser(s) had considered this then both camps would have been a little more active/entertaining. Who knows.

Punishments were erratic and inconsistent. Before I go on I want to point out that I asked for @Cassiieee;s punishment to be less harsh because I felt that she would become an interesting character to watch and hadn't been allowed to reveal her true entertainment value considering who she was placed with. Ok, so... Just because you tweak a punishment to keep one user in, doesn't mean that this is a trend that should go on throughout the event. Later on in the event GoldenMerc was revealed to have been asking people for votes in a similar fashion to cassie but was given a significantly lighter punishment - taking 7 days of vip from a prize fund that as a Habbox God would not affect him if he had won. Cutting his votes in half like you did to Cassie would mean he was evicted and I would have stayed. and no, the screenshot wasn't edited, phil was there at the time. Coincidentally, this was the day that Dec has now been revealed to have voted in the event. Individuals involved in hosting the event should remain impartial in all respects and so to allow smods to vote and therefore show that they have clear favourites is a little bit iffy.

The "audience" had about as much knowledge of what was going on as those confined to the jungle did, by the looks of things. Secret tasks were introduced extremely late and there was no incentive (despite what has already been said...) to think up secret tasks. You may well have been offering rep but the post made was a short halfhearted addition to the day 6 breakdown that essentially asked "pls pm forum god some sekrit tasks thxx" with no mention of incentive. Still think bolt and msaqua should have been forced to rap battle.

Overall it was subjectively interesting (inside) but ultimately objectively boring (outside) experience. Not enough effort was put into getting the outsiders discussing it and I know that myself and others made conscious efforts when inside to keep discussion alive, just wish that the same could be said for forum team when it came to the audience.

I mentioned my thoughts on the voting system in a previous thread so feel like I should reiterate and explain my thinking. During the event, the vote was to SAVE individuals from eviction/execution/whatever you want to call it and I don't think this was a good idea. Voting to GET RID of individuals would have imho been a better way of dealing with things.

As you say, it was a popularity contest. Checks and balances can be put into place to reduce that aspect of the competition as much as possible and vote to kick would have had the benefit of meaning that those begging for votes wouldn't need to, so would instead have to rely on people actually following their activity in the jungle itself, taking votes away from preconceived notions of how a person is and onto judging them based on their more recent actions. Who's going to vote to kick Cassie, for example, when bolt/msaqua (sorry, I have nothing against you, you're just boring to watch for me and I'm not exactly gonna call myself out for being boring..) are not really contributing anything entertaining. The same 5-10 people voted for these two specifically every single week and lets be honest, it's not because they're following their activity, it's because they're "nice". Might have added a new layer of entertainment to it, too, what with individuals having to persuade the audience somebody else deserved to leave more than them.

Not a fan of the fact that I deliberately got rid of the entire prize fund (it shouldn't have been there to just throw away, read above posts for suggestions on how to work that task in future) and the next day they are given a prize pot bigger than the one that took us a week to obtain.

Very interested to see what users that didn't actually follow the event thought of it, and why they didn't follow it. A few people I'd specifically like some thoughts on how successful the event was from are
@Sianness; who told me that "I dont think they put the right people in",
@Yuxin; who said "what? i dont udnerstand
i dont
i dont even
i dont know what
i dont understand the jungle"... or something to that effect
@dey:;, @TheJokerEffect; and... *takes deep breath* @NoNoNoNoDPWMH; who voted every week but didn't talk about the event.

That's all for now. Probably missed something.

[TheJokerEffect]

@Kyle; I've talked about the event a lot, but not on the forums, and I talked about it a little at the start of the event, If you want my thoughts, I'd love to give them to you when i get home from school

[Kyle]

look forward to it

[Sian]

ooh alo. I think my opinion involving not the right people, was mainly down to pure surprise about who did get in, though some of them worked there wasnt really any fresh habbox faces (i dont know if anyone relatively new bothered to apply though). As a lot of people were saying, it wasn't particularly interesting to watch in the end, which is down half to the people who were put in and half to the little amount they had to do.

Some improvements for next time (as I think a next time is plausable);

- create tasks that they have to do each day, try to add more roleplay into it? (not heavily, but just to imitate being in a jungle more.

- A lot more audience participation, giving us chances to control what happens within the jungle, not just by voting.

[Jurv]

oh god you all have too much to say

[scottish]

Even since the events ended, @Liva; has no VIP yet she just won something like 195 days? (isn't she also meant to get jungle VIP for so long? or is it for that 195 days?)

There's no community announcement (only posted in the thread where the final contestants were getting eliminated one by one) or anything else to state the events or, that there's even been a winner or anything?

Considering that forum will soon be removed, there should be at least a CNB regarding it.

[Mr-Trainor]

Even since the events ended, @Liva; has no VIP yet she just won something like 195 days? (isn't she also meant to get jungle VIP for so long? or is it for that 195 days?)

There's no community announcement (only posted in the thread where the final contestants were getting eliminated one by one) or anything else to state the events or, that there's even been a winner or anything?

Considering that forum will soon be removed, there should be at least a CNB regarding it.

They mentioned HERE that there'll be an announcement later on, unless that has already been posted somewhere?, so I'm sure it'll be posted outside of the Jungle forum then n the prizes will be given out .

[Kardan]

Liva should get all the VIP as Jungle VIP - or at least that's how I understood it.

Have the voting details been released somewhere or something?

And glad you read the post Phil, and there's really not much to reply to since it's pretty self explanatory. Only one bit though:

but I do not accept you telling me that only LL were told because the second I got that information from Martin I came online and I posted in that task thread.

Yes, you did tell us that Laura's username was in the anagram - not denying that. What we didn't know was the other error that the other team knew about. Laura's 9 letter username actually went in the 10 letter word slot - which the other team knew about. We never knew about this, so we were like 'Well, Laura's 9 letter username has to go in the only 9 letter word slot at the end - which was actually assistant).

As I said, it didn't matter because we got the VIP anyway (but then lost it because LL cheated anyway) - just want to clarify what I meant

[scottish]

LALALA NOTHING TO SEE HERE THIS ISN'T EDITED DW

thanks mr-traitor

[Kyle]

oh god you all have too much to say

phil asked for feedback, it's only right to be as thorough as possible!