Get rid of post your... junk threads

[lemons]

the most annoying thing about it is that it spams the activity stream -_-

[Cerys]

Why are people so bothered about their post counts? The only problem I see here is that the quality of posts might suffer, which isn't even an issue since you can just choose to ignore those threads...

Personally I think people are just annoyed with these people who boost the post count because they've got their post count high the proper way but the others are 'abusing the system' to get theirs high
If you see what I mean

It doesn't really bother me

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[Kardan]

Why are people so bothered about their post counts? The only problem I see here is that the quality of posts might suffer, which isn't even an issue since you can just choose to ignore those threads...

I'll state my reasons so you don't have to read through all the posts to find it

People are gaining post count for posting the same/similar words over and over again, but post count isn't enabled in places like spam where genuine discussion takes place. Likewise, moderators warn for 'pointless posting' across the forum (and in some cases move those threads to spam in order to cancel out any post count gained in those threads), but these big threads are still allowed (despite it also being explicitly stated in forum rules that repeated one word answers aren't allowed).

These threads basically go against the rules and common sense, but are still allowed

So a few of us would like to see it made consistent across the forum. Either post count doesn't matter, so it is enabled/disabled everywhere - or post count does matter, and these threads shouldn't count towards it.

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Can I just say every other forum (that isnt related to Habbo) actually doesn't give a crap about post count, Post counts in EVERY forum. Some people have upwards of 100k posts in 4-5 years. I mean if spam had post count active I think Jen or FJ would be top.

I'd like every forum to have post count enabled, I wish the post your stuff was put in a private forum it ruins the content

Last time I heard, Jen had 33,000 in spam alone

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Personally I think people are just annoyed with these people who boost the post count because they've got their post count high the proper way but the others are 'abusing the system' to get theirs high
If you see what I mean

It doesn't really bother me

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It's not really this - most people that abuse the system are relatively new members that have low post counts compared to the forum. Nobody has ever managed to get a ridiculously high post count only on those threads, so I doubt anyone would ever manage to get into the top 10 posters doing this.

[GommeInc]

Not this again...

1) Post count is worthless.
2) Blame members who religiously post threads in the Spam forum. Many of the threads in there should be in other forums.
3) Again - post counts are useless - maybe stop obsessing over something so trivial.
4) They're not "forum games". How absurd.
5) One would argue obsessing over post counts is a waste of life from both sides - they're not worth anything which is a dig at the pro and anti sides.
6) Spam isn't being used for its intended purpose (as usual) though forum games could have post count enabled - it is just post count after all.

It's irrational and deeply illogical to keep this discussion going as there are no solid arguments. The greatest is this illogical belief that post counts are actually worth anything. Secondly, you're removing an active area of the forum - removing them from view to a separate forum despite being on-topic in their respective forums seems to go beyond the basic rational thought. Thirdly, ask moderators to start removing threads from spam and putting them in their respective forums - there are loads based on celebrities, music, gigs etc.

Also, finally the biggest error in this anti logic - what's the illogical rationale behind there being a boost in "real" threads? Getting rid of a type of thread does not de facto mean an increase in other threads - if anything it will be the opposite, you're suggesting a new demographic of user will appear when this is not true. You'll just have emptier forums and threads that are on-topic being moved to a forum which may as well be a rubbish dump.

Furthermore, you're suggesting the forum become even more miserable and anti-social. These discussions naturally exist in any type of forum. You're suggesting Habbox turn the forum into some conglomerate/serious chat forum when no one cares about that and just want to have a good time, rather than have it ruined by people obsessing over trivialities.

Completely unnecessary.

[scottish]

If we can all agree that post count is worthless, let's get off the topic of 'get rid of your post... junk threads' and change it to enable post count in spam.

As we all agree, post count means jack, so let's globally enable post count (except for staff forums as they're hidden from the majority of users).

It's stupid to have a rule preventing people from freely speaking then they get warned for it, then having the likes of nick and kyle being useless as usual and posting "This Series - Ep 2" "This Series - Ep 3" or "News" etc.

Either let us all speak (get rid of pointless posting rule, make a new rule and only use it for posts such as "kofomeifweo") freely, or remove the threads that contradict your rules.

[Kardan]

Not this again...

1) Post count is worthless.
2) Blame members who religiously post threads in the Spam forum. Many of the threads in there should be in other forums.
3) Again - post counts are useless - maybe stop obsessing over something so trivial.
4) They're not "forum games". How absurd.
5) One would argue obsessing over post counts is a waste of life from both sides - they're not worth anything which is a dig at the pro and anti sides.
6) Spam isn't being used for its intended purpose (as usual) though forum games could have post count enabled - it is just post count after all.

It's irrational and deeply illogical to keep this discussion going as there are no solid arguments. The greatest is this illogical belief that post counts are actually worth anything. Secondly, you're removing an active area of the forum - removing them from view to a separate forum despite being on-topic in their respective forums seems to go beyond the basic rational thought. Thirdly, ask moderators to start removing threads from spam and putting them in their respective forums - there are loads based on celebrities, music, gigs etc.

Also, finally the biggest error in this anti logic - what's the illogical rationale behind there being a boost in "real" threads? Getting rid of a type of thread does not de facto mean an increase in other threads - if anything it will be the opposite, you're suggesting a new demographic of user will appear when this is not true. You'll just have emptier forums and threads that are on-topic being moved to a forum which may as well be a rubbish dump.

Furthermore, you're suggesting the forum become even more miserable and anti-social. These discussions naturally exist in any type of forum. You're suggesting Habbox turn the forum into some conglomerate/serious chat forum when no one cares about that and just want to have a good time, rather than have it ruined by people obsessing over trivialities.

Completely unnecessary.

Then we simply enable post count everywhere

[GommeInc]

They do not contradict the rules, these threads are not "pointless" - for some reason people have forgotten what the word means and it's definitely not what some Habbox members think it means - those threads have a "point".

Blame the users who use the Spam forum - there is a cult problem down there where they know that their threads will get coverage despite there being perfectly normal forums for those sorts of threads. There are two distinct cultures on Habbox. The spam culture and whatever you wish to call the other one which is all inclusive. Those who clearly do not care about post count post in spam - they're not being forced too - otherwise they would just post elsewhere in the forum for the post count. They post there because that's where they know they can get coverage.

Then we simply enable post count everywhere

Could do and rename the Spam forum to something else, seeing as Spam and Post Count do not really go together in this day and age It would be a bit of a contradiction in terms.

That said, the current system isn't broken - just selective obsessives which are blaming the establishment for the self-induced crises other members are causing themselves.

[Kardan]

They do not contradict the rules, these threads are not "pointless" - for some reason people have forgotten what the word means and it's definitely not what some Habbox members think it means - those threads have a "point".

Blame the users who use the Spam forum - there is a cult problem down there where they know that their threads will get coverage despite there being perfectly normal forums for those sorts of threads. There are two distinct cultures on Habbox. The spam culture and whatever you wish to call the other one which is all inclusive. Those who clearly do not care about post count post in spam - they're not being forced too - otherwise they would just post elsewhere in the forum for the post count. They post there because that's where they know they can get coverage.


Could do and rename the Spam forum to something else, seeing as Spam and Post Count do not really go together in this day and age It would be a bit of a contradiction in terms.

That said, the current system isn't broken - just selective obsessives which are blaming the establishment for the self-induced crises other members are causing themselves.

Well, part of the system *is* broken.

At the moment, Habbox says post count matters (this being shown by some forums having post count removed).

It seems wrong that you can post full sentences that relate to previous posts and get warned for pointless posting.

But you can easily post 'This series Ep 1', 'This series Ep 2', 'This series Ep 3' and not get warned (and get post count), but you don't get post count for typing '1', '2', '3' in forum games.

To make clear, the main problem isn't post count (I couldn't care if post count got disabled for everyone, or enabled everywhere) - it's more about making the rules consistent (especially when it says repeatedly posting one word answers is against the rules).

[Kardan]

Just an example of the current 'pointless posting' rule, which essentially revolves around 'Don't pointless post for post count/tokens':

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=799526 - Thread gets moved to spam because it's 'better suited'. Why? Is it because it's a 'Post your' thread?

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...73#post8137273 - This post gets rightfully warned with a pointless post... but

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...06#post8135606 - This post gets reported and gets refused - despite the posts being virtually identical.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=798747 - Only *some* threads get moved to spam for pointless posting

Apparently, you can post two sets of 'Congratulations' in the same congratulations thread and not get warned for pointless posting (Was reported and not warned):

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...02#post8145702
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...41#post8146841

And then of course, with these 'post your' threads, you can post 'PJs' or 'News' repeatedly, despite there being a forum rule against that.

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Oh hiya there o/ . never told me you tagged me in here . well i did the math and 1,764 oh my post weren't in those I still don't understand why you both are still on about this ???. It's not like you guys complaining about it all the time is going to make us stop? Like i'm not complaining or anything but I kinda don't care that you guys don't like me posting in there

We just want your thoughts on these threads - Why do you post in there? What would you think if post count was disabled from now on in these threads? What would you think if you could only post in there 3 times a day? etc.

[The Don]

Just an example of the current 'pointless posting' rule, which essentially revolves around 'Don't pointless post for post count/tokens':

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=799526 - Thread gets moved to spam because it's 'better suited'. Why? Is it because it's a 'Post your' thread?

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...73#post8137273 - This post gets rightfully warned with a pointless post... but

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...06#post8135606 - This post gets reported and gets refused - despite the posts being virtually identical.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=798747 - Only *some* threads get moved to spam for pointless posting

Apparently, you can post two sets of 'Congratulations' in the same congratulations thread and not get warned for pointless posting (Was reported and not warned):

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...02#post8145702
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...41#post8146841

And then of course, with these 'post your' threads, you can post 'PJs' or 'News' repeatedly, despite there being a forum rule against that.

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We just want your thoughts on these threads - Why do you post in there? What would you think if post count was disabled from now on in these threads? What would you think if you could only post in there 3 times a day? etc.

And that falls into moderator discretion. Clearly due to the history and sheer size of some of the 'post your threads' they have been allowed to stay. Also not to mention different moderators are going to have different opinions on things which is why some stuff will always be inconsistent.

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Why are people so bothered about their post counts? The only problem I see here is that the quality of posts might suffer, which isn't even an issue since you can just choose to ignore those threads...

God knows, they've started using the argument that it affects habbox because of tokens/credits/vip even though if we take a look at the effort required to get anything decent from it the time and effort put in far outweighs the prize. As if that's actually a genuine concern from any of them though.

But as i've previously said, i'm not against post count being enabled everywhere.