Rare Values Revamp

[Mr-Trainor]

tbh i voted them all

Any particular reason ?

I suppose that is a problem if you had to update it all at once, yeah. I suppose it depends on how many items you would keep valuing to see how big of a task it would be.

Anyway, the Wiki thing is only an idea. It seems a lot simpler from my point of view. Means there would be no coding in V7 except a 'Pull this value' thing from HxW, and you already have the Wiki infrastructure so people can edit values and what not. And of course, depends if it's technologically possible.

Ah well, just trying to give HxW a purpose

Yeah I think it should definitely be considered, it seems like a fairly reasonable idea and my biggest concern would just be how user friendly it'd be for both the people using the values and the people updating them .

[lawrawrrr]

If values aren't wanted, needed, a good use of time on the main site, why would that be any different on the Wiki?

And it has a purpose, it's the biggest information bank on Habbo, Sulake and Habbox history (ok first two are the most important).

[j0rd]

I still think your all looking too much inside the box. I don't personally think that any of the current 'revamp' ideas will do anything at all, but I'm sure something can be pulled from somewhere!

I have no ideas so just going to leave that there

[Tyler]

[QUOTE=Mr-Trainor;8150230]Any particular reason ?]

There all good ideas. Personally any of them are a possibility (not as keen for number 4)

[Inseriousity.]

Are those auctions still popular? Personally instead of rare values I see it as the 'trade' department. The trading side of Habbo seems to be quite popular and I think that we should try to tap into that subculture of Habbo more generally rather than just via valuing rares, especially as the latter is not as necessary or popular as it used to be.

[Samantha]

@-:Undertaker:-; you say items under 100c are generally sold a lot on the MarketPlace, but there are so many that aren't, but they're not the rarest of items either. Things like Stately Roofs for example, I used to have a few of these and I literally haven't seen any since I sold all mine on, nor have I seen them in the MarketPlace, also items people spend ages looking for, Stage Fence Corners perhaps? They can never find them. I think we do need to push for the ultra/supers/LTDs and Teleports though, but not exactly alienate those that aren't found easily - perhaps scrap norms and other items that are sold often (perhaps HC Rares, Eco furniture, etc.)

I agree that the moderation of values could be done by the team of reporters and the suggest forum could be pushed a lot more if say someone isn't part of the team as then we could get members reporting actual rares and perhaps these could even be submitted on the site to an extent? That way the normal staff could look and the community feel is also brought back.

[Mr-Trainor]

Are those auctions still popular? Personally instead of rare values I see it as the 'trade' department. The trading side of Habbo seems to be quite popular and I think that we should try to tap into that subculture of Habbo more generally rather than just via valuing rares, especially as the latter is not as necessary or popular as it used to be.

I think most trading will happen through the marketplace whether we like it or not, and auctions do seem to have died down since I had mine back when they were quite popular.

@-:Undertaker:-; you say items under 100c are generally sold a lot on the MarketPlace, but there are so many that aren't, but they're not the rarest of items either. Things like Stately Roofs for example, I used to have a few of these and I literally haven't seen any since I sold all mine on, nor have I seen them in the MarketPlace, also items people spend ages looking for, Stage Fence Corners perhaps? They can never find them.

My point exactly . I was pushing for LTDs/Gold star/Silver star with some additions which would cover norms like the Stately Roofs and Teleporters.

I think we do need to push for the ultra/supers/LTDs and Teleports though, but not exactly alienate those that aren't found easily - perhaps scrap norms and other items that are sold often (perhaps HC Rares, Eco furniture, etc.)

Basically the majority of what Habbox values, doesn't need valuing.

[Kyle]

NONE of these options look at all appealing. Where is the "remove rvr job" option?

There are some difficult to obtain items that aren't added to the marketplace at all often that fall below the 100c bracket and those are the ones people are most looking for the prices for. these and teleporters/ltds are literally the only thing rare values will be useful for and it's too difficult to keep on top of items traded in such small quantities. scrap.

[Kardan]

If values aren't wanted, needed, a good use of time on the main site, why would that be any different on the Wiki?

And it has a purpose, it's the biggest information bank on Habbo, Sulake and Habbox history (ok first two are the most important).

If it's possible to create something on V7 that pulls the values from the Wiki, aka, if the page had something like:

Purple ICM

Rarity: Normal Rare
Price: **/wiki/PurpleICM/Price**

And it would appear as:

Purple ICM

Rarity: Normal Rare
Price: 100c

Then would we not need to spend as much time coding RV for V7? Is that not an easier way to do it? @Chippiewill; Do you know how wikis work?)

[Mr-Trainor]

I have a feeling it'd still require more coding, to get other functions like the graphs working etc, and migrating existing data from 2010 might not be easily possible?