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    Being attacked by a civilian =/= top brass employed by a party (who haven't been removed) employing illegal immigrants and making death threats to gay people

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    Point proven as in you're wrong?
    Point proven that all you lot have done during this entire campaign is shout racism over genuine concerns over mass immigration. Instead of making the case for the EU or for open borders, all you've done is sunk to the lowest campaign in British political history and it's failed.

    The establishment media campaign, organised by the three cartel parties, has fallen flat on its face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Point proven that all you lot have done during this entire campaign is shout racism over genuine concerns over mass immigration.

    The establishment media campaign, organised by the three cartel parties, has utterly failed.
    How is that relevant to this? Dodging the question doesn't do anything to help yourself. Try to answer it this time. How is blaming the media for an attack on a Ukip candidate over a non political issue comparable to calling a racist party racist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    How is that relevant to this? Dodging the question doesn't do anything to help yourself. Try to answer it this time. How is blaming the media for an attack on a Ukip candidate over a non political issue comparable to calling a racist party racist?
    I haven't blamed the media for the attack, indeed I stated that it was still unclear as to the motive hence why Police are investigating.

    I simply warn, as I did a week or so ago, that the way the media has conducted this campaign has turned the debate toxic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I haven't blamed the media for the attack, indeed I stated that it was still unclear as to the motive hence why Police are investigating.

    I simply warn, as I did a week or so ago, that the way the media has conducted this campaign has turned the debate toxic.
    Read the title of this thread.

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    And if anything turned this debate toxic it is the Ukip campaign tactics, not the media for calling something what it is.
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    In threads about immigration we talk about immigration. In threads about minimum wage we talk about minimum wage. In threads about business we talk about business. In threads about racism we talk about racism and you deflect, then lie about everyone else's intentions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    Read the title of this thread.
    Guido wrote it and used 'these' 'to' 'show' 'it' 'was' 'an' 'allegation'.

    Now i'm not debating it anymore, nor I will debate waycism or what a some obsure candidate has said or hasn't said. You've had your chance all these weeks to put forth the pro-EU case and pro-open borders case, you've decided to play dirty and it's backfired on you. HA.

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    Labour and Conservative polling is showing that attacks claiming Nigel Farage is a racist have backfired since voters do not regard him as such and see the assaults as a sign members of the political establishment are ganging up to undermine him.

    The apparent backlash is coming to both parties from telephone polling and focus groups, which say that the attacks have raised Farage's profile and confirmed him as the anti-establishment candidate. It does not tally with published opinion polls that show the Ukip lead in the European elections narrowing slightly.

    One source said: "Calling people names does not work. It confirms the old politics."


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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    In threads about immigration we talk about immigration. In threads about minimum wage we talk about minimum wage. In threads about business we talk about business. In threads about racism we talk about racism and you deflect, then lie about everyone else's intentions.
    It appears that everyone understands this except Dan. Judging by his last post the only threads allowed about political parties are those which discuss the EU, anything about the individual parties themselves appears to be off limits. Also hilarious that he's defending using a sensationalist title simply because 'guido did it'.
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    To be fair he prob can't concentrate properly on what threads are really about while he's busy using baby talk to prove how above the argument he is
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    UKIP technically isn't a racist party - it's just the media jumping to conclusions or individual readers thinking x member made a racial slur therefore the party is racist. It's just the person, not the party. Closer scrutiny of the party manifesto and you just get controlled immigration as a policy - no "they're useless" or "a cause for all things wrong in Britain". The only remark is about Romanians and that's not even in the policies section. The remark is about as useful as the Conservatives saying thousands of people are better off when in reality many thousands of others are living off of food banks or Labour saying they will fix the country despite having a track record of being bad with finances.

    UKIP do have other policies but for some reason people lack the time to actually read them.
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