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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    And it's this sneering attitude at people like that man who speak like normal people rather than slime-ridden two faced politicians which is why Ukip are picking up seats. The man doesn't speak like a politician because he isn't one, and he gets a few names wrong (we're not all political geeks out there y'know): yet all my friend today for example could do was sneer at him as though he was on the uneducated orders and his genuine concerns didn't count for anything.

    There's genuine concerns over mass immigration from working class people, and yet all the London-centric commentariat and observers in the main three cartel parties can do is sneer at them in the most arrogant way.
    Genuine concerns fuelled by bigotry. I'm entitled to laugh at somebody making a fool of themselves, and if they feel strongly enough about their political views to agree to discuss them on the news then they're fair game for criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    Genuine concerns fuelled by bigotry. I'm entitled to laugh at somebody making a fool of themselves, and if they feel strongly enough about their political views to agree to discuss them on the news then they're fair game for criticism.
    And that's why you lot are the gift that just keeps giving.

    No connection with normal people out there.

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    Fear =/= risk
    If you find yourself having your wages depressed by migrants and your area changed, as many have, it's real.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    And that's why you lot are the gift that just keeps giving.

    No connection with normal people out there.
    If you think that guy represents the average person then you're sadly mistaken. Perhaps he represents the average Ukip supporter...

    If you find yourself having your wages depressed by migrants and your area changed, as many have, it's real.
    You're going to find your wages depressed by getting tattoos on your face and head.
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    Not sure why being an uneducated Brummy makes someone more "real" or "normal" other than as some special silencing weapon
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    If you think that guy represents the average person then you're sadly mistaken. Perhaps he represents the average Ukip supporter...
    If you don't think he's a normal bloke then that simply goes to show the divide that now exists between the out of touch middle classes who benefit from mass immigration and open borders and the working class.

    It's hard for the media & cartel to understand this, but Islingston actually isn't representative of the country.

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    Not sure why being an uneducated Brummy makes someone more "real" or "normal" other than as some special silencing weapon
    You mean like calling average voters like his concerns over open borders bigoted and waycist? ahhh, yeah.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    If you don't think he's a normal bloke then that simply goes to show the divide that now exists between the out of touch middle classes who benefit from mass immigration and open borders and the working class.
    Middle class? Pretty funny considering I grew up in a council house in a pretty rough part of a big city. As far from middle class as it gets. I guess i'm not 'real' though or i'm 'out of touch' because I don't subscribe to the idea that immigrants are to blame for everything and instead look at facts. That guy's views thankfully aren't representative of the general population which is why Ukip supporters are a minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    Middle class? Pretty funny considering I grew up in a council house in a pretty rough part of a big city. As far from middle class as it gets. I guess i'm not 'real' though or i'm 'out of touch' because I don't subscribe to the idea that immigrants are to blame for everything and instead look at facts. That guy's views thankfully aren't representative of the general population which is why Ukip supporters are a minority.
    No, but you've adopted those sort of ideas. I've seen and I know people like you, you think that because you can speak rather well and are politically savvy that everybody who happens not to take on the dreamworld you choose to believe in (ie, let just everybody in and the working class can sink or swim) then they're bigoted, racists and just generally neanderthals who should be ignored, derided and mocked.

    And this goes beyond Ukip, this is attitudes amongst the entire population as a whole towards various political issues and even social issues. I again recommend a read of the illuminating book 'Revolt on the Right' by Matthew Goodwin and Robert Ford if you really want to understand peoples fears and concerns (focused mainly on the working class section of society) rather than simply throwing their concerns and opinions to one side because they don't fit into your utopian world view.

    When you throw the borders open, it's people like them who suffer the consquences. Not the insulated London elite.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    You mean like calling average voters like his concerns over open borders bigoted and waycist? ahhh, yeah.
    I didn't, I called him uneducated. Whoops, Dan makes stuff up again
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    I didn't, I called him uneducated. Whoops, Dan makes stuff up again
    So his concerns over mass immigration are completely unfounded then as he can't speak like a two faced lying politician and didn't go to university to take a course in media studies? Give me a break.


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