Sexually frustrated shooter kills seven

[The Don]

Indeed. It could be argued allowing guns to be easily accessible to people with Asperger's is incredibly stupid, but then again his parents should probably have been a little better at handling or knowing about the syndrome by taking precautions such as not having firearms in the house or allowing him access to both a fancy European car (BMW M3?) and to a gun.

I'm shocked that his mother apparently knew of the videos and did nothing other than think they were a little bit shocking :/

I think you should read up on the case more since his parents did do something about it, they called the police on him who went and visited him. The Guns were also legally his, not his parents.

[FlyingJesus]

He felt entitled to EVERYTHING from EVERYONE. He hated women for not giving themselves to him and men for not letting him be their overlord. And yes I absolutely can deny that Laci has things "spot on" because she blames masculinity as a whole for nearly all violence despite the fact that just about everyone in the world manages to get by with testosterone in their systems and doesn't kill anyone. She also postulates that masculinity is what "anyone with a penis was raised with" and is all about being violent, despite that clearly not being anywhere near the case or we'd be living in a world where bodybuilders rule and you have to punch people for a coffee. She's never been raised a male and has never raised a male. Literally nothing that she claims is true except in the very poorest regions of the world, and the killer here was very much removed from that. We are not raised to believe that women are objects, the very opposite is true and is blasted at us constantly as soon as we are born. Of course the inverse is never spoken about (because females really are entitled to what they want in our society and how dare you say otherwise) and Laci even claims that the media have been sympathising with the murderer which has clearly not been the case - talk about having a victim complex. She's the sort of person who makes women fear going outside at night because they'll be attacked despite males actually being the huge majority of victims of street violence (but who cares about them) and finishes with the tired "misogyny kills people" as though silly little things like warfare and suicide and stands for honour don't exist.

[The Don]

But the main point of this still stands, it was all about power and taking things into his own hands, because he felt entitled to their pusseys. I actually enjoy luci, watched a bit of her on D(iscovery)News. You can't deny she has got it almost spot on.

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Also while im here, interesting thing innit.

Watch this, start at around 1:29 and go till the end. Explains why they shouldn't be making this worldwide news, nor any other mass shootings.

He felt he was entitled to everything. This isn't relevant to feminism, this deluded guy felt that he was entitled to everything in life, not just women. He thought he deserved to win the lottery and spent his $5000 life savings on tickets, when he lost it all he wrote about how he deserved it more than those that won. This isn't relevant to feminism as it's not due to some sort of systematic problem where women are victims. Yes, he was misogynistic, he was also racist, and from reading his manifesto, appeared to hate pretty much anyone, not just women. You could potentially blame sexuality in western cultures (as his motive, I still wouldn't blame this incident on that though as it was merely a trigger, if it wasn't because he was a virgin it would've been some other asinine reason), which would actually have grounding as opposed to misogyny. He viewed himself as a failure due to western societies focus on sex and how it's abnormal to not have it. That's not oppressing women or placing them under men, in fact, this is a bigger problem for men in general more so than women due to the fact that in western society men that don't have sex are seen as less successful than those that have. An example of this is how a lot of male virgins are branded as losers, whilst on the other hand female virgins are generally seen as cute as they're 'waiting for the right person' whereas with a male it's generally seen as because he's unsuccessful, as opposed to because he's waiting for someone. This is in general, obviously there are exceptions to this and not all female virgins are called cute and not all male virgins are branded as losers, but that's how a large portion of people see it (and wrongly so).
@wixard; he said in his manifesto that he would target men that looked like the men women go for, so he was also targeting men, not just women.

[karter]

Laci Green is a trans-exclusionary feminist so please don't.

[Kyle]

He felt entitled to EVERYTHING from EVERYONE. He hated women for not giving themselves to him and men for not letting him be their overlord. And yes I absolutely can deny that Laci has things "spot on" because she blames masculinity as a whole for nearly all violence despite the fact that just about everyone in the world manages to get by with testosterone in their systems and doesn't kill anyone. She also postulates that masculinity is what "anyone with a penis was raised with" and is all about being violent, despite that clearly not being anywhere near the case or we'd be living in a world where bodybuilders rule and you have to punch people for a coffee. She's never been raised a male and has never raised a male. Literally nothing that she claims is true except in the very poorest regions of the world, and the killer here was very much removed from that. We are not raised to believe that women are objects, the very opposite is true and is blasted at us constantly as soon as we are born. Of course the inverse is never spoken about (because females really are entitled to what they want in our society and how dare you say otherwise) and Laci even claims that the media have been sympathising with the murderer which has clearly not been the case - talk about having a victim complex. She's the sort of person who makes women fear going outside at night because they'll be attacked despite males actually being the huge majority of victims of street violence (but who cares about them) and finishes with the tired "misogyny kills people" as though silly little things like warfare and suicide and stands for honour don't exist.

@God;
watch this it's rly kwl and educational



http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID41E2.pdf
http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/domviol/men.htm
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-everyone-risk
http://www.webmd.com/men/news/200706...-doctor-visits

sorry i didnt read the rest of the thread i can't be arsed hope the families of victims get the help they require and are able to move through this etc etc

[GommeInc]

I think you should read up on the case more since his parents did do something about it, they called the police on him who went and visited him. The Guns were also legally his, not his parents.

I have. They still did nothing. They let him buy guns, they called the police and appear to have said nothing to them about the syndrome. The fact they called the police shows how little they seemed to care - why did they not personally go to see him? They did the stupid thing and chucked money at him to do whatever he pleases which probably explains why he felt entitled to everything because his parents set the foundations to make him feel entitled to whatever he wants. The syndrome itself makes the "sufferer" easily exposed and as far as I've read they had very little input and didn't tell him how to act seeing as that is one of the main drawbacks of it - they do not understand norms and need to be shown how to act. They're crap parents. They plopped him out and let someone who could easily become violently unstable roam free as he wishes. Any decent parent aware of the syndrome would know that they need to have a careful eye on them at all times, not half-arsedly phone the police before it is too late and treat him as someone else's problem.

[The Don]

I have. They still did nothing. They let him buy guns, they called the police and appear to have said nothing to them about the syndrome. The fact they called the police shows how little they seemed to care - why did they not personally go to see him? They did the stupid thing and chucked money at him to do whatever he pleases which probably explains why he felt entitled to everything because his parents set the foundations to make him feel entitled to whatever he wants. The syndrome itself makes the "sufferer" easily exposed and as far as I've read they had very little input and didn't tell him how to act seeing as that is one of the main drawbacks of it - they do not understand norms and need to be shown how to act. They're crap parents. They plopped him out and let someone who could easily become violently unstable roam free as he wishes. Any decent parent aware of the syndrome would know that they need to have a careful eye on them at all times, not half-arsedly phone the police before it is too late and treat him as someone else's problem.

You can't stop a 22 year old adult that doesn't live with you from buying something (in this case guns). Chances are they didn't even know he had them? You seem desperate to want to blame the parents when really this guy was an adult that had been living elsewhere for nearly the past 3 years. They called the cops as soon as they discovered the videos, there's not much more they could have done other than have him committed.

[e5]

I saw his vids, what a creep. RIP those innocent people

[GommeInc]

You can't stop a 22 year old adult that doesn't live with you from buying something (in this case guns). Chances are they didn't even know he had them? You seem desperate to want to blame the parents when really this guy was an adult that had been living elsewhere for nearly the past 3 years. They called the cops as soon as they discovered the videos, there's not much more they could have done other than have him committed.

He had Asperger's, any parent with any number of braincells would know to keep a watchful eye over their children who have the disorder. Asperger's doesn't disappear when you reach the age of 22, it's incurable. I'm shocked you've never heard of it :/

[Brad]

He had Asperger's, any parent with any number of braincells would know to keep a watchful eye over their children who have the disorder. Asperger's doesn't disappear when you reach the age of 22, it's incurable. I'm shocked you've never heard of it :/

If he has Asperger's, I'm surprised he didn't have a social worker with him. Usually people with Aspergers needs help, because it's with the rationalization, right?
I only know a vague understanding of Asperger's...