Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 - Crashed in East Ukraine

[WoodyLFC.2k7]

Yea, I've been thinking that too! but why would other countries want to get involved in the conflict.

Because citizens of other countries have been killed seems a fairly good excuse..
Also - It's effectively a war crime..
+ countries like war. =[

[Woutou]

Why would they fly over a war zone tho.. they got shotdown in the area the rebels controlled

[xxMATTGxx]

Why would they fly over a war zone tho.. they got shotdown in the area the rebels controlled

The same reason they fly over Iraq and Afghanistan

[Michael]

Pro-Russian rebels discuss the shooting down of the Malaysian Airlines airliner

[GommeInc]

The same reason they fly over Iraq and Afghanistan

In his defence he has a point. If it were rebels who shot down the plane, they probably lack the technology to discriminate against Ukraine/Russian planes from innocent, civilian planes so there is a greater risk.

[Woutou]

Yea I know but they could of at least been warned about the conflict in the area...

[xxMATTGxx]

In his defence he has a point. If it were rebels who shot down the plane, they probably lack the technology to discriminate against Ukraine/Russian planes from innocent, civilian planes so there is a greater risk.

I don't think anyone knew they could shoot anything above 32,000 feet which is what the impression I am getting. Anything that high up is normally considered safe - Mainly because it would normally be the actual armed forces of either country that has the weapons to be able to shoot anything higher than FL320. It was deemed as a safe route by ICAO.

Although we don't know who did it for sure, if it was the rebels like what it's being reported mainly then it looks like that airspace will be closed for a while.

Yea I know but they could of at least been warned about the conflict in the area...

There has been warnings via NOTAMs - Especially by the FAA to US airlines. I'm sure each airline is very well aware of the situation going on in that area but it is not the airlines fault that this has taken place.

[wixard]

I don't think anyone knew they could shoot anything above 32,000 feet which is what the impression I am getting. Anything that high up is normally considered safe - Mainly because it would normally be the actual armed forces of either country that has the weapons to be able to shoot anything higher than FL320. It was deemed as a safe route by ICAO.

Although we don't know who did it for sure, if it was the rebels like what it's being reported mainly then it looks like that airspace will be closed for a while.



There has been warnings via NOTAMs - Especially by the FAA to US airlines. I'm sure each airline is very well aware of the situation going on in that area but it is not the airlines fault that this has taken place.

i was watching the abc news stream with the freelance journalist and a guy on there said that they can shoot up to 72 thousand feet?

oh okay i failed to read the rest of your post. will be interesting to see how this plays out

[GommeInc]

I don't think anyone knew they could shoot anything above 32,000 feet which is what the impression I am getting. Anything that high up is normally considered safe - Mainly because it would normally be the actual armed forces of either country that has the weapons to be able to shoot anything higher than FL320. It was deemed as a safe route by ICAO.

Although we don't know who did it for sure, if it was the rebels like what it's being reported mainly then it looks like that airspace will be closed for a while.

Indeed, I'm just saying that to many they won't really understand just how high these planes are and how they aren't at risk per sé. Thousands have flown through this airspace yet no incidents had occurred

It does make me wonder if the army bases which were taken over a while ago may have some weaponry missing from their inventory. It's completely inexcusable and isn't going to do either side any justice for doing this, especially an airliner going through enough problems carrying nationals from countries which have little to do with either side of the conflicts. But that's assuming it was the action of the rebels :/

[FlyingJesus]

This is what happens when big powers arm up bands of untrained rebels who can't tell the difference between 2 planes, but unfortunately Putin's already addressed that by saying that if it was rebels using Russian technology then it's still Ukraine's fault because it happened on their soil... utterly ridiculous and no-one's going to accept accountability by the looks of it. RIP to the victims