Are you racist?

[Kardan]

My friend, you are talking rubbish and your argument can be debunked right here (first question)....

The argument as Douglas Murray says isn't that one person from a foreign culture is coming into this country, or even two or a hundred - the issue is that hundreds of thousands, even millions have come in (more from certain countries and cultures than others, ie Poland and Pakistan) and have settled together and basically colonised and ghettoised entire inner city areas. This in turn drives out the native population and culture, which prevents social integration taking place between the newcomers and the host country taking place.

Now, instead of talking garbage and skating around the issue - attempt to combat everything I just wrote.

Do you not believe that integration should take place?



You consider the idea that immigrants should make efforts to integrate with the country they've moved to egotistical or bad?



If nationality, culture and identity doesn't matter or even exist - why do you want Scottish independence?



Well actually, you're wrong there. Whilst it may be illegal, it is almost impossible to police due to EU open borders which mean anybody can move in and as it is all done off the books (a key feature of the third world) it's impossible to even track.

Added to that, the last government even went out of it's way to bring more people in: https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=cr&...search+parties

And also, you asked somewhere what British culture can even be defined as despite me answering this a few times. It's speaking the English language. It's the Monarchy. It's our concept of common law and liberty. It's our humour, our cuisine. Our faith. It's our tales, poems and folklore. It's our accents. It's our adversial political system. It's our shared bond with the Anglosphere. It's our sense of history and identity. It's the sacrifices that generations have made in past wars. It's our music, it's our writings, it's our philisophy, our sports, our pub culture, it's our scientific achievements, our architecture........ and I could go on and on and on.

You will not hide behind the idea that we don't have a culture worth defending and preserving because we bloody well do.



Opinion polling across Britain regularly shows a large majority believing that immigration is the number one issue facing the country, with increasing numbers (and a comfortable majority) wanting tighter immigration controls.

So whilst the tumblr crew on here may think they are the majority, you really aren't out there in the real world.

So you just ignored everything I said basically? Anyway, give me an example, what sorts of British culture have been driven out of Birmingham because of ethnic minorities moving in?

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dw aiden he did the same to me. he ignored what i actually said then twisted the words into something i did not say, weird huh.

[Kardan]

And @-:Undertaker:-; can you name a 1st world country that doesn't have ghettos?

[-:Undertaker:-]

So you just ignored everything I said basically? Anyway, give me an example, what sorts of British culture have been driven out of Birmingham because of ethnic minorities moving in?

Well yes, because you are talking complete nonsense.

But thankfully, you've picked up on my point at last even if you haven't actually answered my question concerning whether or not immigrants should be expected to integrate with the host culture. In answer though, to these ghettoised areas, talk and read about them or watch various documentaries..... you only had to watch the one on the BBC the other week which I caught a glimpse of where an old couple described how they couldn't buy normal vegtables on their local high street anymore. Why? Because the area had been completely taken over by foreigners who had arrived in the past decade, who had subsquently driven all of the British shops away. That's just a small example of alienation.

Increasingly even in Liverpool I am hearing foreign languages on the bus or the train meaning I cannot even talk to my fellow passengers and fellow countrymen should I want to, or even ask a question. In Hull, the place of my higher education, I was only talking to an older hairdresser who described how since the Kurdish had moved into the area, bars and nightclubs had shut down due to British women feeling unsafe as well as all of the local high street basically being turned into a Kurdish-only high street.

For a society and a nation to function, it requires broad shared values and a shared culture. Do you not agree?

[Kardan]

Well yes, because you are talking complete nonsense.

But thankfully, you've picked up on my point at last even if you haven't actually answered my question concerning whether or not immigrants should be expected to integrate with the host culture. In answer though, to these ghettoised areas, talk and read about them or watch various documentaries..... you only had to watch the one on the BBC the other week which I caught a glimpse of where an old couple described how they couldn't buy normal vegtables on their local high street anymore. Why? Because the area had been completely taken over by foreigners who had arrived in the past decade, who had subsquently driven all of the British shops away. That's just a small example of alienation.

Increasingly even in Liverpool I am hearing foreign languages on the bus or the train meaning I cannot even talk to my fellow passengers and fellow countrymen should I want to, or even ask a question. In Hull, the place of my higher education, I was only talking to an older hairdresser who described how since the Kurdish had moved into the area, bars and nightclubs had shut down due to British women feeling unsafe as well as all of the local high street basically being turned into a Kurdish-only high street.

For a society and a nation to function, it requires broad shared values and a shared culture. Do you not agree?

Oh cool, I didn't know that if you spoke another language it meant you didn't speak English. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

And once again, ignoring what I said. Can you give me some examples of British culture being driven out of Birmingham?

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dw aiden he did the same to me. he ignored what i actually said then twisted the words into something i did not say, weird huh.

Answer my question regarding immigration, do you or do you not agree with me that integration for immigrants is important for a society?

And @-:Undertaker:-; can you name a 1st world country that doesn't have ghettos?

Increasingly not, and my question is - at what point do these ghettos begin to dominate major cities? Should there be a limit to it in your view?

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"Answer my question regarding immigration, do you or do you not agree with me that integration for immigrants is important for a society?"
nope not necessarily and even if they did i don't think they need to do that by completely disregarding their own religion or customs. i think different cultures and different beliefs are important to society as it brings along different ideas for business etc.....

[-:Undertaker:-]

Oh cool, I didn't know that if you spoke another language it meant you didn't speak English. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Why are they still speaking their foreign language to one another in public in Britain if they consider themselves British?

Answer: Because whilst they live here, they don't actually feel British at all apart from the passport they hold. And I find that depressingly sad.

And once again, ignoring what I said. Can you give me some examples of British culture being driven out of Birmingham?

I just gave you an example of an area of Hull that I knew in regards to Kurdish immigration. I could give you the example of how English is being replaced in Tower Hamlets even in the council chambers. I could give you the example of the BBC show which I just did where an older couple described how they cannot even find normal vegtables on their local high street anymore.

Use your head a bit and think about it. Will a huge influx of foreign people radically change the culture of an area? Yes, obviously.

[Kardan]

Answer my question regarding immigration, do you or do you not agree with me that integration for immigrants is important for a society?



Increasingly not, and my question is - at what point do these ghettos begin to dominate major cities? Should there be a limit to it in your view?

And avoiding my question again. Can you actually name (and by that, I mean typing out the name of a country!) a 1st world country that doesn't have ghettos?

And I don't know at what point ghettos begin to dominate, and how could you possibly put a limit on it? "Sorry, we have 63 Lithuanians living in this square mile, you can't move in".

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"Answer my question regarding immigration, do you or do you not agree with me that integration for immigrants is important for a society?"
nope not necessarily and even if they did i don't think they need to do that by completely disregarding their own religion or customs. i think different cultures and different beliefs are important to society as it brings along different ideas for business etc.....

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Good luck to the Jews, gay people and women in these areas though, they're going to need it - especially in Islamic ghettoised areas.

Edited by Wispur (Assistant General Manager): Please do not make inappropriate posts.