Abortion: Right or Wrong? And what limits?

[OldLoveSong]

I believe that life begins when a heartbeat starts because death is pronounced when a heartbeat stops. I dont believe that its up to the government to decide when a fetus 'becomes a baby'. Ideally i dont support abortion but in certain circumstances i can understand why some people would get it say if they were raped or whatnot.


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[Kyle]

It's not murder. Not morally and not legally. It's still wrong tho.


~~from phone

[Collegno]

But then I think if he doesn't want it why isn't he wearing a condom? But then I guess if they were just using the pill the woman could easily stop taking the pill to get pregnant, but sex between a man and woman always carries the risk of pregnancy, so its something that could potentially happen and those are the consequences to deal with.

I don't think saying ''Well, you've just got to live with it'' is a good thing when it comes to the child's emotional development. Many women who carry to full term would feel rather ashamed to be putting their children up for adoption (largely by their family) and feel pressured into keeping a child that they did not want. I can't imagine what it'd be like to be told that you weren't wanted, but I do not imagine that it is pleasant.

[Rachel]

If it was a rape then maybe it would be a different story for abortion even though I am fully against abortion.
On the other hand if it was not a rape but just didn't bother using protection and the girl goes for abortion is wrong. The child didn't ask to come to this world and it is I called it a murder. I do not like abortions and even if it was a rape, if you didn't want the child, just put it as an adoption for crying out loud.

[Empired]

Oh I completely agree with that, whether you're against abortion or not, surely people can't disagree that the father should get equal say? I'm not currently aware about the say the father gets currently though.

If one agrees and one disagrees, the baby should be kept. If both agree to whatever option, that option should be done.

And to those women who reply 'it's my body, my choice', well that's too bad, two people are responsible for it, not just you.

Because the father does not have to carry a baby in his womb for nine months. Because the father will not have to suffer morning sickness or the crazy hormonal swings or the aches you get all the time. Because a father is not possibly putting his and/or the baby's life in danger as the due date gets nearer. Because a father then doesn't have to go through a labour that could be up to 48 hours where he's pushing a watermelon-sized object out of a lemon-sized hole.

If the father decides he wants to support the mother + child, I believe the woman should take his views into account. But that's a "should" not a "must". It's her body that will go through everything. So it's her decision.

[Lewis]

Because the father does not have to carry a baby in his womb for nine months. Because the father will not have to suffer morning sickness or the crazy hormonal swings or the aches you get all the time. Because a father is not possibly putting his and/or the baby's life in danger as the due date gets nearer. Because a father then doesn't have to go through a labour that could be up to 48 hours where he's pushing a watermelon-sized object out of a lemon-sized hole.

If the father decides he wants to support the mother + child, I believe the woman should take his views into account. But that's a "should" not a "must". It's her body that will go through everything. So it's her decision.

Don't be ridiculous. Yes it's growing in the woman's body and more than likely going to cause a lot of problems (and pain upon birth), but it is as rightfully the father's baby as it is the woman's baby.

Fathers should not just have a say under the woman's decision, they should have a complete equal say. If you were a male and found out that your girlfriend was having a baby, even if it was accidental, and you wanted that child and wanted to love it, then the girlfriend says I'm getting an abortion...

I doubt you'd agree with that or believe that the woman should have the final say.

[Empired]

Don't be ridiculous. Yes it's growing in the woman's body and more than likely going to cause a lot of problems (and pain upon birth), but it is as rightfully the father's as it is the woman's.

Fathers should not just have a say, they should have a complete equal say as the woman does.

I'm not being ridiculous, it's obvious: their work towards growing that child is not equal, therefore they should not get an equal say.

[Lewis]

I'm not being ridiculous, it's obvious: their work towards growing that child is not equal, therefore they should not get an equal say.

The man cannot choose whether or not he is the one giving birth to the child, it's not possible (obviously). It is still rightfully and equally the mothers and fathers. They should both get equal say.

[Kyle]

It's not equal until the child is born lol


~~from phone

[Empired]

The man cannot choose whether or not he is the one giving birth to the child, it's not possible (obviously). It is still rightfully and equally the mothers and fathers. They should both get equal say.

No it's not. That's like doing a massive group project and you do nothing except come up with a title. And then you expect them to share the credit equally with you.