Abortion: Right or Wrong? And what limits?

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Abortion: Right or Wrong? And what limits?

Last week, a picture of 24-week old Adelaide being delievered was released by her grieving parents. Sadly, Adelaide died from complications from being born so early although other babies have survived at such an age and are regarded as well formed. The photo (above) has prompted some, again, to question the abortion limit or even abortion entirely as to what constitutes a child and the fact that babies have survived at the 24-week legal abortion week suggestions are rife that this limit is far too high.

The ins and outs of abortion are well known, so I will not go too deeply into them.... the broad sweep being that ultimately a termination is the choice of the woman who is carrying the child within legal time limits, and that the point at which a foetus becomes a child is a grey area...... whilst others contend that life begins at fertilisation and that any form of abortion, unless to save the life of a mother, is morally wrong and constitutes murder.

But where do you stand? And what legal limit would you have?

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The debate is open to you.

[Empired]

I'm strongly pro abortion. I think (although I can't be sure obviously) that if I were ever in a situation where I had an unwanted pregnancy I would end up aborting. Might not be easy, but I'd do it.

Always believed abortion should be treated on a case-by-case basis. However, even if the woman wants to abort for a stupid reason like she wants a boy and it's a girl, the baby should be aborted. Life is miserable when you're not wanted. And you can argue for adoption all you like but adoption ******* sucks. I would never want to put a child through that. Fair enough, some babies get adopted pretty quickly and live happily with their new parents from an early age. But generally they are the exception to the rule.

Also believe that it should continue to be the woman's choice alone. It's the woman who normally has to go through nine months of morning sickness, back pain and terrible mood swings. It's the woman who has to go through up to 48 hours of pushing a watermelon out of a considerably smaller hole. And then it's the woman who often is expected to stay at home and look after this child for the next 16 - 18 years. (Note I say often plz!)

Anyway, banning abortion will not stop it. It will just make women put themselves and the baby in danger by getting it done illegally. Much better the abortion is done legally and safely than in the back room of some creepy house with two needles and a towel.

Idk I think I'd want to bring the age down a bit though. (Age of a foetus? Is that the right word?) 24 weeks is too long IMO. Don't most other countries have considerably less time? Bring it down to 18 or 20.

[Kardan]

I'm also pro-abortion. I do think the 24-week limit is somewhat out of date now, our medical technology is making it more common that babies born at 6 months will actually survive now. I think perhaps 20 weeks is a sensible limit - for now. If technology improves even further, I wouldn't have an issue with that time limit coming down further.

Of course, the time limit goes out of the window if doctors have a genuine reason to be concerned with the health of the mother. The mother should ALWAYS be prioritised over the baby.

[Aiden]

i think abortion should be legal and up to the woman and man who the baby would be born to

[Shar]

Can you tell us more about the story above or give a link please as it'd quite vague what the circumstances were and if it was actually an abortion as it appears that she had a caesarean and I'd quite like to know the indicators and why the baby didn't survive because there must have been contributing factors. Not all 24 weekers would die and actuallly the survival rate is better these days due to the care that can be provided especially in western countries and developed countries.

[Jssy]

Can you tell us more about the story above or give a link please as it'd quite vague what the circumstances were and if it was actually an abortion as it appears that she had a caesarean and I'd quite like to know the indicators and why the baby didn't survive because there must have been contributing factors. Not all 24 weekers would die and actuallly the survival rate is better these days due to the care that can be provided especially in western countries and developed countries.

It wasn't an abortion, the baby was just born early so her parents released the photo to show how well formed a baby is that is still aborted within this time limit.


I myself am against abortion, but think its ok in certain circumstances. I was shocked watching a documentary at a woman who had had 10 abortions and said she didn't use contraception. You can only have an abortion if 2 doctors agree and it either would put the mothers physical life in danger, affect her mental health or affect the quality of life for others. What constitutes as mental health? There is a wide range of things, so it is pretty easy to get an abortion. Obviously if a mother has been raped or the baby will be severely disabled then abortion is probably the best option. I just don't agree with using an abortion as a means to contraception, but I wouldn't judge anyone for their choices really, as its a choice women have, they'd be the one carrying the baby. I do think the abortion limit should be lowered.

Where I live the ward where abortions take place is on the same floor as the neo natal unit saving babies born at 24 weeks just down the corridor which makes me feel a bit weird that whilst babies are intentionally having their life ended, they're saving babies born early just down the corridor.

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I'm also pro-abortion. I do think the 24-week limit is somewhat out of date now, our medical technology is making it more common that babies born at 6 months will actually survive now. I think perhaps 20 weeks is a sensible limit - for now. If technology improves even further, I wouldn't have an issue with that time limit coming down further.

Of course, the time limit goes out of the window if doctors have a genuine reason to be concerned with the health of the mother. The mother should ALWAYS be prioritised over the baby.

An abortion can take place up to 9 months pregnant if the woman is in genuine danger, so the limit being lowered to 20 weeks wouldn't be a bad thing, because doctors can always intervene if necessary

[Empired]

@Jssy; omg what! People use abortion as contraception? Would find that unacceptable. That just sounds like you're mocking the doctors and the system.

[Jssy]

@Jssy; omg what! People use abortion as contraception? Would find that unacceptable. That just sounds like you're mocking the doctors and the system.

There have been cases, yeah, especially where I saw that woman having her 10th abortion in 4 or 5 years, I thought surely the doctors giving it the go ahead should say something?

[Empired]

There have been cases, yeah, especially where I saw that woman having her 10th abortion in 4 or 5 years, I thought surely the doctors giving it the go ahead should say something?

Is she paying? If so then they'd probably just be glad to be rolling in the money. Or are abortions free? I don't know these things.

Still, not right. But what can you do?

[ToxicMint]

im only for abortions in such as rape situations. im very much in favor that the woman shouldn't have to have a constant reminder of what happened. however when a couple are just being lazy not using protection or they use the baby as a weapon then they should have to face the consequences of there actions and if they cannot cope with a baby should put it up for adoption but not destroy a life.