Ambassadors have arrived!

[Macklebee]

There is no need for ambassadors. We have seen small groups with power become corrupt time and time again. What's even funnier, though, is that their duties are essentially the same as when they were guardians EXCEPT now they have the ability to warn, kick and mute. The voting system was better because it allowed a wider group of opinions. The power is now concentrated into the hands of a few, and who knows whether they will make fair decisions. It's not like the staff care about or monitor this stuff anymore.

You'd be surprised what we care about and monitor, we would not have made the decision to introduce ambassadors and give them these limited powers if we did not trust that they would perform their duties responsibly. Give them a try, let's not be so negative from the outset

[Inseriousity.]

Issues have started already in terms of the guardian tool. I've used it on/off for several months now and people usually deal with cases perfectly fine, but today I've noticed they've been giving users a 'naughty' or 'severe' rating for literally the tiniest things. Someone told someone to **** off (with an A instead of a U) as a joke and you could quite clearly tell from the convo they were friends, and they got voted ''naughty'' by four guardians.

This is stupid, so many people are going to suffer because now we're going to have a guardian tool where everyone gets a bad rating if you say the tiniest thing and I'm so pissed it's happening purely because of the mention that ambassadors can stem from those using the guardian tool often. I don't think ambassadors are that bad themselves but just the effect on the guardian reports errrgghhhhhhhhh.

lmao I wondered why I seemed to be getting a lot more Habbo messages now (when the banter is generally the same as I've always done it).
Only recognise Drew from that list cos I'm not really up to date with the people who stalk Habbo staff.

[RyRy]

Your comment about age is flawed. They have been selected as they're somewhat old habbos and have been there for a number of years
This being said you cant join Habno now until youre 13 so this excludes them from being to young or too old as the have birthdates on record when you sign up. The age of 13+ doesn't therefore mean they have to carry out CRB checks because systems have changed. Like previously said they were mainly inactive which means they wont know as many people as they did. Plus years of being on there and having a clean record Sulake have no reason to carry out CRBs.

How is it flawed? How do you know all of their ages? Do you know something I don't? How many years we talking here? I'd be surprised if any of these are over the age of 18, and if they are, I'll be even more surprised that Sulake didn't CRB check them for that fact. Think like a parent, would you want your child going on something which is under control by god knows who, people that have been passed through on merit? You don't know who is at the other end of that desktop, and I think it's not out of the realms of possibility that there could be somebody abusing their position (in the future) for their own personal gain, whether that be exploitative sexually, mentally or using these avenues to exploit somebody physically. That's why CRBs are a thing, you get a better picture of whose behind the desk.

If Sulake checked me out on my CRB record, they'd find I'm as clear & experienced as they get, but if they checked my online persona, it would paint a very different picture of who I am. Switch the results around of each check and you get a picture of what the system is now (unless anybody wants to pitch in and say otherwise).

The system has changed, and I've pointed that out that it's got its own flaws compared to the last one. You also forget that people can fake their date of birth on Habbo, and keep their age a secret. Funnily enough, a respected member of Habbox was caught doing just that this year so that destroys that argument. The idea that these people have been put into position based on "how well behaved they've been" gives me the heebies.

It's all a bit too gray area for me.

[DPS]

You'd be surprised what we care about and monitor, we would not have made the decision to introduce ambassadors and give them these limited powers if we did not trust that they would perform their duties responsibly. Give them a try, let's not be so negative from the outset

how about you deal with people who buy and sell habbo accounts.. nothing is ever done about it and yet you guys know it happens.

people like M aka See always selling accounts and scamming people for rare accounts.

[minimew312]

Personally, I don't yet have an opinion about this Ambassadors program yet, as I haven't yet witnessed the outcome. Also, I'm not really going to judge it from the past either, as if we were to judge everything from the past nothing would ever get done!

So yeah, at the moment I'm all for this program, and I'd like to congratulate Drew!

[.red-bleu.]

Some guy in the .nl hotel (ex-habbo X and ever since always helped habbo's and owned a -still active- helpdesk) was not pre-selected to become a ambassador because 2 of the 3 the masters didn't want him to cuz he is close with a group of users with a not very good reputation. (This is told by the 3th one)

[October]

Back then they were a kiss up, well a few were, but I think some of them have left now. I'm not disputing that they may help the community and be active - I just don't 100% believe that will be the only reason they got chosen if that makes sense? One of the people in the council did come up with an alternative way to the ambassador scheme though, which would have made it even more exclusive which I don't think would have worked.

It'll be interesting to see how it pans out though.

If you're talking about who I think you're talking about, I've not seen them in a helping sort of area in a while now, just role playing...

[Nick]

LOOK OUT, Drewar has the power Congrats and goodluck guys

[Kardan]

Found this thread a bit late, but I'll give my opinion.

Sadly, I think this is just another scheme that is doomed to fail. Whether it fails within a few months, or lasts a few years is a different matter.

It is essentially a reboot of the Habbo X system in it's 2007ish form. Back then the Team Leaders had the Mute/Kick/Warn features. There were only 4 of them, and they had the powers for a month until HQ decided it was too risky and removed the powers.

And, of course the core issue with each of these 'programs' is essentially 'power'. There is always, always abuse at some sort of level. For example with Habbo Xs there was the free HC, room override, easier access to events and badges, free tickets, and for team leaders, free furniture.

I've just scanned my emails and found the email that announced to the X Team that we were being discontinued, over 6 years ago now, and here's the relevant part of that email:

Evolution is an on-going process and just as the Hobba team made way for a new breed of helpers, it’s my sad duty to inform you that the time has come for the eXpert team as we know it to join the halls of Habbo history and be replaced by the next stage in Habbo’s development.

The one disappointment of staff and players alike with the Habbo eXperts program was that it could not expand to a size where it could encompass all those who wanted to participate. Every recruitment drive ended with hundreds of disappointed players wondering why someone else got accepted and not them.

Sulake has thought long and hard about ways to allow more players to greet new Habbos and be recognized for guiding them through the game without being constrained by the time and resources staff have available to manage such teams. The solution comes in the form of the revamped and much improved Welcome Party system which allows eligible Habbos to act as Guides to new players and be recognized easily within the Hotel by the badge they wear. The more experienced a Welcome Party Guide becomes and the more players they successfully help, the higher ranked badge they can earn to reflect their success. This new feature will be launched during the next Hotel update, which is coming very soon!

Now, it makes me question, have Sulake really solved the problems of the Habbo X program in the last 6 years? Well, the simple answer is no. Not only do we have a new scheme that has less members (making it even more exclusive), but quite arguably there's less staff involvement in the hotel now compared to 6 years ago. So if it was a struggle to maintain the X Team back then, I can't imagine it would be any different these days.

If Sulake had solved the issues, then this scheme could work, but alas, I don't think there's much hope.

Good luck to all the people involved, and for those that haven't experienced anything like it in the past, get prepared for a whole lot of flack.

[Okeanos]

considering you were permed for abusing your habbo x privileges kardan, i dont think you can moan about this. i personally dont think ambassadors are anything like habbo xs (thank god).