guest eo

[FlyingJesus]

Person cannot commit to contributing an entire 3 hours a week = don't pretend you ought to be called staff, which implies you actually work
Person can commit to contributing an entire 3 hours a week = well done go apply and good luck to you

If guest staff are doing above and beyond as is being claimed then they should simply join as proper staff, the guest role makes no sense at all other than to make it appear that we have more staff than we really do. People hosting events "unofficially" and promoting Habbox every now and then is far better than having a whole bunch of what appears to be inactive staff, and god knows we have enough empty slots in the calendar every day for that to be an option. By all means allow ex staff who have already been through the trial phase to skip trials, but inventing an extra role that means less effort and all of the same benefits as newer staff who really go for it has no bonuses to it at all. No-one currently wants to be normal staff because there is absolutely no incentive to be.

[Plebings]

fully understand not wanting to sign up if it meant doing 3 events a week, gotta take into account time it takes to build/prepare - could add up to 5+ hours a week which is a lot of time to dedicate to a fansite, especially if you're coming on habbo less and less. for me hosting comes in batches, some weeks or even months i dread the idea of hosting, but for instance this month i'm motivated enough to actually do something.

staff numbers may look low, but what really matters is how many events are hosted. think of ways to encourage "unofficial" events. i asked shonly if i could do my xmas games for habbox and she was more than happy to comply.

instead of pushing the blame on "lazy hosts", focus on how habbox recruits, habbox's image. when people join events they join because of the community or the brand. you want more people to join? make sure the habbox events already booked are popular and fun. hosting a boring game and waiting 20 mins for 6 people to queue up is not a good image. habbox has the tough task of maintaining hxhd, most fansites use their events as lounges too. when people come in and see other fansites that bring more people with chattier staff that is much more enticing than what habbox offer. not saying hxhd should close, just saying it's a tough battle and people in hxhd should be more willing to move room to help the site out. when doing my event on friday had a fair few habbox people come in, but when i went to hxhd to ask intersocial to come he was really mean and refused

[RyRy]

Here's what you do:

Create Community EOs which can be managed by the EO staff, and remove the Guest EO rank (or any Guest rank through Habbox for that matter if possible).

Anybody should be able to be a community EO with the supervision of any Habbox staff of a certain rank, idk senior and above? There's always at least 2 habbox staff at every event anyway.

Community EOs don't need access to staff forums, they don't need staff permissions, they just need to put into their room description "this is an event sponsored by Habbox, ran by its ordinary members and is not a staff-run event". If Community EOs need to be told stuff, they're told on a need-to-know basis from the EO manager.

Community EOs can have their own forum to post up events and when they want to do them but ultimately EO staff events get prioritized.

Got any problem with that? Assistant EO manager would focus more on community-run events and EO manager would focus on the staff EOs more.

Anybody got any issue with that? I hate the idea of Guests, this makes it more informal.

[Kyle]

Here's what you do:

Create Community EOs which can be managed by the EO staff, and remove the Guest EO rank (or any Guest rank through Habbox for that matter if possible).

Anybody should be able to be a community EO with the supervision of any Habbox staff of a certain rank, idk senior and above? There's always at least 2 habbox staff at every event anyway.

Community EOs don't need access to staff forums, they don't need staff permissions, they just need to put into their room description "this is an event sponsored by Habbox, ran by its ordinary members and is not a staff-run event". If Community EOs need to be told stuff, they're told on a need-to-know basis from the EO manager.

Community EOs can have their own forum to post up events and when they want to do them but ultimately EO staff events get prioritized.

Got any problem with that? Assistant EO manager would focus more on community-run events and EO manager would focus on the staff EOs more.

Anybody got any issue with that? I hate the idea of Guests, this makes it more informal.

Why convolute the role more than is needed by adding separate forums and restricting access? Just allow people to complete reasonable monthly minimums when staff numbers are low and involve them more in the organisation of larger scale events so that they are still involved and interested I habbox. Fully understandable that people do not feel like they want to host events week in week out but why not just hire them anyway? Staff numbers are too low to refuse. Guest role can remain, just reserve it for those that join in more sporadically but host GOOD and WELL ORGANISED events, like plebings, like graham in the past, like habbic, red, samanfa and others during down periods in tournament seasons.

As long as a team is properly managed and maintained and stays dedicated where they can, there is no need for this constant push to either meet minimum or join another site which will take what they can get and use it to grow their brand.


~~from phone

[Richie]

Guest roles just inspire laziness tbh and often used by old staff who don't want to be there, want the staff perms/get the behind the scenes goss/chat and would actually be full time provided the right opportunity came along or if the guest role did not exist.

Maybe that's some factors but for me it was about leniency even though i'd DJ quite a lot more than some regular DJs, I didn't like being tied into something, giving commitment that sometimes i wouldn't be able to follow through with. Perhaps that's why others like the guest role? I dunno, maybe you're right.

I mean no offence to jazz and gina who are great DJs and have proven time and again they are capable of the senior roles but they were guest DJs and now apparently they're not busy enough to be promoted to a position which is more work than a regular DJ. It makes no sense.

Instead of trying to hold onto old staff that don't want to be there full time, we need an active Habbo presence to get new staff who won't look to guest roles as something to aspire to!

@Shonly;
If the guest role is opened to all staff from the get go and you're adamant to keep it, perhaps 'part-time' and 'full-time' applications should be issued as that is pretty much what it is. Otherwise i think there should be a criteria for the guest position, determining how it should be giving based on commitment and time given to the department in the past, it shouldn't be given out so lightly.Perhaps give additional perks to those full-time staff as an incentive. Although I don't agree with it, it's more descriptive.

[Phil]

Assuming the events Department still has the reward system or whatever, do Guest Events Organisers get included in that? Also, do they get reports?

[Matt]

I think the introduction of part-time, full-time, community EO's etc wouldn't really be necessary and would create so much confusion. Having Guests, Normal Staff and Seniors who all have access to the same forums does the job fine. We don't just accept anyone and everyone who applies for the role of Guest either. I think i've been quite strict as to who I've accepted into the role as I have turned down people who have not met the criteria. People who have shown dedication within other departments or who have hosted Events, in a managerial role for example, I believe would be good assets to the team. So in that regard, if someone expressed interest in the role that is well known and has been at Habbox for a while (not someone who has just joined and who has no experience with Habbox as a Fansite), they could be put on a trial or given the role of Guest straight up (keeping in mind that I want it to stay as a privilege role).

Getting rid of the minimum, not sure I like that idea at all. Yeah it may encourage people to join but would we actually see Events hosted or people just sitting there with the staff permissions and usertitle, doing literally nothing. It could potentially be lowered (as an alternative) but if that were the case you could easily merge the Guest role and Normal role and have them all hosting 2 Events a week (seeing as there would only be 1 Event/Hour difference). That could be an option although most other major Fansites have a 3 Event minimum and they seem to be coping fine.

Since I've been manager, I've given all Staff in the department a report. I know previously some managers didn't provide the Guests with any report comments at all. I felt this isolated them from the rest of the team and provided little encouragement or support. They are still staff members of the Events Department so yes in my last set of reports all staff were given a comment, including Guests.

There is a reward system that was put in place by Paige and that is still going but it's not playing an overly huge part in the daily running of the department. I was trying to think of a new system to put in place but yes all staff get included in the current one. This system focuses on the weekly leaderboards as well as weekly/monthly performances within the department from each staff member.

I also agree that there is no incentive whatsoever for the Normal role. Hmm...

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah it may encourage people to join but would we actually see Events hosted or people just sitting there with the staff permissions and usertitle, doing literally nothing.

http://www.habboxforum.com/calendar.php

[Kyle]

Йthe suggestion was not to remove minimums but to be more lenient on those that feels they will not be able to meet them every week , providing that they do more than required in other weeks.


~~from phone

[Matt]

Йthe suggestion was not to remove minimums but to be more lenient on those that feels they will not be able to meet them every week , providing that they do more than required in other weeks.
~~from phone

Would that not be more of a monthly requirement then? 3 Events per week = 12 a month. I host 2 in 1 week so in one of the remaining 3 weeks I'd need to host 4 in order to make the 12? That would be one of the only ways to monitor staff activity.

http://www.habboxforum.com/calendar.php

Everyone currently meets their minimums unless posted away. Those who weren't meeting the minimums are no longer in the department. The days of pre-booking are very much over, we've known that for a while and it's been brought up in almost every single feedback thread concerning Events! The fact none of those days have more than 10 Events is because of the lack of staff. I wouldn't say anyone in the department is lazy as we got rid of anyone that wasn't pulling their weight! I do check the calendar everyday