Why is there separate posting comps?

[Matt]

Who said you need to be bored to create a thread giving feedback? or offended for that matter? For the 18th time, it's the principle, for the 18th time I couldn't care less if it was 5 tokens of 5000 tokens. Read.

Because I have no interest in becoming staff?

Who said Phil done anything wrong? I'm sure the scheme was probably in place before Phil became Forum Manager, no-ones called out Phil for doing anything wrong? lol.

The principle of rewarding staff that volunteer their time to a Habbo fansite seems fine to me? I don't see a problem with it. If you aren't interested in becoming staff then fair play. But why ruin it for those who dedicate quite a bit of time to Habbox and stop them from getting a small reward????

Pretty sure Phil brought it back a few months ago (or I just wasn't paying attention to it). He seems to be copping it from you guys when I think it's a perfectly fine incentive and a good idea to try and increase staff activity outside of their staff forums.

[scottish]

The principle of rewarding staff that volunteer their time to a Habbo fansite seems fine to me? I don't see a problem with it. If you aren't interested in becoming staff then fair play. But why ruin it for those who dedicate quite a bit of time to Habbox and stop them from getting a small reward????

Pretty sure Phil brought it back a few months ago (or I just wasn't paying attention to it). He seems to be copping it from you guys when I think it's a perfectly fine incentive and a good idea to try and increase staff activity outside of their staff forums.

It's not ruining anything? It would be putting staff and normal users alike in a similar competition rather than having two with the same purpose but rewarding one group more and rewarding (for the most part) none in the other.

It's stupid you're all arguing OH BUT 50 TOKENS IS NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then 5 minutes later WHY RUIN IT FOR THE STAFF? If you're claiming the reward is nothing then what's the issue in taking a more sensible approach to the competition and joining them?

I'm not sure who brought it in and didn't state Phil had or target him for bringing it in. If 'copping it from you guys' is the same as replying to feedback then he sure is.

[Phil]

It's not ruining anything? It would be putting staff and normal users alike in a similar competition rather than having two with the same purpose but rewarding one group more and rewarding (for the most part) none in the other.

It's stupid you're all arguing OH BUT 50 TOKENS IS NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then 5 minutes later WHY RUIN IT FOR THE STAFF? If you're claiming the reward is nothing then what's the issue in taking a more sensible approach to the competition and joining them?

I'm not sure who brought it in and didn't state Phil had or target him for bringing it in. If 'copping it from you guys' is the same as replying to feedback then he sure is.

You said you didn't want 50 tokens

It was in place before I was manager back when Chippiewill was staff. I brought it back when there was feedback about encouraging posting and added the tokens bit

[Matt]

It's not ruining anything? It would be putting staff and normal users alike in a similar competition rather than having two with the same purpose but rewarding one group more and rewarding (for the most part) none in the other.

It's stupid you're all arguing OH BUT 50 TOKENS IS NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then 5 minutes later WHY RUIN IT FOR THE STAFF? If you're claiming the reward is nothing then what's the issue in taking a more sensible approach to the competition and joining them?

I'm not sure who brought it in and didn't state Phil had or target him for bringing it in. If 'copping it from you guys' is the same as replying to feedback then he sure is.

Staff and the Community are different though, that's kinda the point.

Staff provide you with Events/Articles/Graphics/Content etc. Community members aren't dedicating their time to produce such work (if you want to call it work?). So including a scheme for staff is a way of saying thanks & acts as motivation, doesn't it?

As Mike said, staff are excluded from entering certain competitions during the year. As an example, the quick quizzes on the forum's Christmas day (where each quiz was worth 2 weeks of VIP and there was about 6 of them), the forum staff were excluded from that. I'm sure other big events that have been held - staff have not been allowed to enter (like graphics staff, they aren't allowed to enter the photography competition are they?). No one complains when staff aren't allowed to enter certain things simply because they're staff - so having small little things on the side where community members can't enter.... I'd have said it balances out quite nicely.

[FlyingJesus]

WAA WAA STAFF GET 50 TOKENS FOR BEING TOP POSTER IN THEIR GROUP
Ok we'll add 50 tokens to the top poster each week then
NO I WANT MORE THAN THAT AND SCALE IT TO BE ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY REFLECTIVE OF HOW MANY USERS THERE ARE PER WEEK WITH COMPLEX MATRICES TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING FOR THE SITE DON'T GET TO THINK THEY'RE BETTER THAN ME

Literally how this is going. If it's about "the principle" rather than the amount then accept the 50 for top poster because that's all that anyone's getting, it's not a big deal and there are already other rewards for other stuff. Whining for 8 pages about 50 tokens when we have issues like the complete lack of Christmas VIP song this year (which is a great community effort.. usually) and low client/community presence makes you look like the petty child that you are

[scottish]

You said you didn't want 50 tokens

It was in place before I was manager back when Chippiewill was staff. I brought it back when there was feedback about encouraging posting and added the tokens bit

I thought you meant personally

I'd like top 5 people to be rewarded, so it'll encourage people to go for top 5 as well as the overall. The whole system needs an overhaul tbh as it's clearly not working as people are in no way aiming to get it.

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Staff and the Community are different though, that's kinda the point.

Staff provide you with Events/Articles/Graphics/Content etc. Community members aren't dedicating their time to produce such work (if you want to call it work?). So including a scheme for staff is a way of saying thanks & acts as motivation, doesn't it?

As Mike said, staff are excluded from entering certain competitions during the year. As an example, the quick quizzes on the forum's Christmas day (where each quiz was worth 2 weeks of VIP and there was about 6 of them), the forum staff were excluded from that. I'm sure other big events that have been held - staff have not been allowed to enter (like graphics staff, they aren't allowed to enter the photography competition are they?). No one complains when staff aren't allowed to enter certain things simply because they're staff - so having small little things on the side where community members can't enter.... I'd have said it balances out quite nicely.

and evidently members need motivation to post too, which currently is 100 posts for 1 week VIP or nothing.

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WAA WAA STAFF GET 50 TOKENS FOR BEING TOP POSTER IN THEIR GROUP
Ok we'll add 50 tokens to the top poster each week then
NO I WANT MORE THAN THAT AND SCALE IT TO BE ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY REFLECTIVE OF HOW MANY USERS THERE ARE PER WEEK WITH COMPLEX MATRICES TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING FOR THE SITE DON'T GET TO THINK THEY'RE BETTER THAN ME

Literally how this is going. If it's about "the principle" rather than the amount then accept the 50 for top poster because that's all that anyone's getting, it's not a big deal and there are already other rewards for other stuff. Whining for 8 pages about 50 tokens when we have issues like the complete lack of Christmas VIP song this year (which is a great community effort.. usually) and low client/community presence makes you look like the petty child that you are

you could adopt a scaling different each week respective of how many users there are, good idea.

The idea is for more than 1 person to be rewarded, otherwise it isn't everything or nothing. If it's 8 threads it's because people are replying, make a christmas VIP thread if you feel it requires feedback, as well as other issues.

[Phil]

I thought you meant personally

I'd like top 5 people to be rewarded, so it'll encourage people to go for top 5 as well as the overall. The whole system needs an overhaul tbh as it's clearly not working as people are in no way aiming to get it.

I don't think the prize of the posting stats is behind the lack of activity

[scottish]

I don't think the prize of the posting stats is behind the lack of activity

I think the whole scheme is failing as it's not motivating anyone to post to obtain any reward, which is the sole purpose for its existence.

So the whole thing needs to be reworked in my opinion, both rewards and the criteria.

[Richie]

Just out of curiosity, why was it originally removed? @Phil;

[FlyingJesus]

It's unfair that staff have more rewards than non-staff!
Let's give more rewards to non-staff than staff!