Gun attack on Charlie Hebdo, 12 killed 7 injured

[The Don]

On another note, weren't you one of the geniuses on here - and forgive me if you were not - arguing that jihadists with British passports should be allowed back into the UK to be monitored and maybe even so-called 'rehabilitated' rather than refusing them entry again into Britain like Farage suggested (and I was arguing for)? Because I just came across this and was interested to see what the fools arguing such a thing now have to say in light of these attacks...



I remember having that debate with people on here (whether it involved you or not). The stupidity and self deception of bleeding heart liberals is breathtaking.

I assume you're on about in this thread here (only time I remember speaking about it)
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=813679

Where I said:

He definitely could have used a better word than reabsorbed, but generally speaking I have no qualms with most of what's been said. It's against International law (and for very good reasons) that we can't just strip people of their citizenship, which in turn means they will eventually be allowed back into our country anyway (preferably straight into a prison cell).

But I don't think we should 'monitor' them in society, we should arrest and imprison them, and if they have dual citizenship then their British Citizenship should be stripped!

[jake87385]

I'm sorry but this is no different to someone mocking your GF/BF and you punching them. The paper mocked their almighty leader and they decided to hit back.

Saying that I do think they are giving other non-extremist Muslims a bad image and causing unprovoked attacks

[The Don]

I'm sorry but this is no different to someone mocking your GF/BF and you punching them. The paper mocked their almighty leader and they decided to hit back.

Saying that I do think they are giving other non-extremist Muslims a bad image and causing unprovoked attacks

No, it's the equivalent of slitting someones throat because they said your girlfriends fat. Don't try and justify the MURDER of people for DRAWING A CARTOON. Great example of Victim blaming right here.

[jake87385]

No, it's the equivalent of slitting someones throat because they said your girlfriends fat. Don't try and justify the MURDER of people for DRAWING A CARTOON. Great example of Victim blaming right here.

I'm not trying to justify murder. I just think we allow the media to think for us at times instead of making our own decisions. I am only looking from another perspective and this is only my opinion.

The killers were brainwashed into believing some incredibly extreme things. Despite how vile their actions are, I think it is important to understand what made them pull the trigger regardless of how extreme this was. In all honesty I am not sure how a cartoon mocking a religion was allowed to be published.

My thoughts are with all the family, friends and co-workers affected by this cowardly attack.

[The Don]

I'm not trying to justify murder. I just think we allow the media to think for us at times instead of making our own decisions. I am only looking from another perspective and this is only my opinion.

The killers were brainwashed into believing some incredibly extreme things. Despite how vile their actions are, I think it is important to understand what made them pull the trigger regardless of how extreme this was. In all honesty I am not sure how a cartoon mocking a religion was allowed to be published.

My thoughts are with all the family, friends and co-workers affected by this cowardly attack.

You are trying to justify their murder by comparing shooting and killing 12 people to punching someone for offending your girlfriend. Love the revenge -Rep and yes you are quite entitled to share your opinion just as I am entitled to challenge it, especially when you're making ludicrous statements which undermine the deaths of multiple individuals.

[jake87385]

You are trying to justify their murder by comparing shooting and killing 12 people to punching someone for offending your girlfriend. Love the revenge -Rep and yes you are quite entitled to share your opinion just as I am entitled to challenge it, especially when you're making ludicrous statements which undermine the deaths of multiple individuals.

Giving somebody -Rep is not revenge, shooting somebody because you you disagree with them is. I was not justifying a murder, taking a life is never acceptable.

[The Don]

Giving somebody -Rep is not revenge, shooting somebody because you you disagree with them is. I was not justifying a murder, taking a life is never acceptable.

Giving someone -Rep just after they've given you -Rep is pretty much the definition of revenge rep.

The example you provided suggested that both the Drawings and the Shootings were on the same level. Don't attempt to backtrack and worm your way out. This is what you wrote:
"I'm sorry but this is no different to someone mocking your GF/BF and you punching them. The paper mocked their almighty leader and they decided to hit back."
This implies the murders were justified because pictures of muhammad were drawn. Killing people for drawing a picture of muhammad is entirely different to punching someone for insulting your girlfriend and the fact you think killing someone is comparable to punching someone is absolutely ridiculous.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I'm not trying to justify murder. I just think we allow the media to think for us at times instead of making our own decisions. I am only looking from another perspective and this is only my opinion.

The killers were brainwashed into believing some incredibly extreme things. Despite how vile their actions are, I think it is important to understand what made them pull the trigger regardless of how extreme this was. In all honesty I am not sure how a cartoon mocking a religion was allowed to be published.

My thoughts are with all the family, friends and co-workers affected by this cowardly attack.

Because we abolished or stopped enforcing blasphemy laws against our own state religion many years ago, let alone a foreign religion.

Or do you advocate a theocratic state? An Islamic state?

[jake87385]

Giving someone -Rep just after they've given you -Rep is pretty much the definition of revenge rep.

The example you provided suggested that both the Drawings and the Shootings were on the same level. Don't attempt to backtrack and worm your way out. This is what you wrote:
"I'm sorry but this is no different to someone mocking your GF/BF and you punching them. The paper mocked their almighty leader and they decided to hit back."
This implies the murders were justified because pictures of muhammad were drawn. Killing people for drawing a picture of muhammad is entirely different to punching someone for insulting your girlfriend and the fact you think killing someone is comparable to punching someone is absolutely ridiculous.

I think you are getting justification and comparisons confused.

Regardless of how the media has brainwashed you, the publication was intended to racially attack people. You might not like to admit it but they were the victims of racism. Admittedly they can't really play that card when they shot people. Who is to say that there are not more Muslims living in France who took offence but did not take extremist measures? And no, the murder was not justified, it was wrong on every level but it was provoked.

[The Don]

I think you are getting justification and comparisons confused.

Regardless of how the media has brainwashed you, the publication was intended to racially attack people. You might not like to admit it but they were the victims of racism. Admittedly they can't really play that card when they shot people. Who is to say that there are not more Muslims living in France who took offence but did not take extremist measures? And no, the murder was not justified, it was wrong on every level but it was provoked.

No, i'm pretty sure I know what you meant. You were justifying the murders with your silly comparison.

It was provoked? Again, how so? Drawing a cartoon should never provoke a shooting. People have been racist to me before in the past and I didn't retaliate by shooting up their family. You can admit you're wrong you know.