Reputation vs Like/Thanks system?

[Richie]

Edit: or even


Keep the current system
Change it to a like system
Remove both systems

[AgnesIO]

I understand what you are saying but what I'm trying to say is, introduce a like / dislike system that doesn't allow you to leave comments but if someone still agrees/disagrees with a post and wants the user they're agreeing to know they 'liked' their post then they would have to reply giving a valid reason to why they agree (otherwise they'll be posting pointlessly), rather than being lazy and just saying 'Agreed' without stating why.

Tbh I'm not that fussed if/how it changes once reputation power system isn't a factor. I'd prefer what I suggested but I won't lose sleep if it's implemented slightly differently

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@scottish; you should have just put two options, Keep current rep system, change the rep system to a like system, then if the second one did win it could be open for discussion on how it should be implemented. Having loads of options is just going to weaken any type of chance of change.

It should be even, change to a like system or keep it how it is, so voting is fair. I quite like all of the options bar the first but I can't vote for them all. I just think some sort of change is needed.

Could just add the rep options together, and add the like votes together. Then decided on implementation.

[Richie]

Essentially at the moment the poll is

Keep it as it is - 14
Change it to a like system - 11
Get rid of it - 2

The only difference between both like options is one is implemented slightly differently

[buttons]

but the poll isn't accurate cause some of us would come to a compromise. so although i would say to have neither, i would be willing to vote on rep/like system providing it becomes more equal

[The Don]

Essentially at the moment the poll is

Keep it as it is - 14
Change it to a like system - 11
Get rid of it - 2

The only difference between both like options is one is implemented slightly differently

Even with a slight majority there's no point changing it. What's the point of going through all that hassle for a 55% majority? Clearly a lot of people want to keep things the way they are.

[Richie]

Even with a slight majority there's no point changing it. What's the point of going through all that hassle for a 55% majority? Clearly a lot of people want to keep things the way they are.

With no valid argument other than power.


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[scottish]

The favourite system is essentially a like system.

I'd say it's more to do with saving and compiling your favourite tweets, not a like system. There's no counter anywhere showing the total amount of favourites on all tweets. If anything, it's more like it is with the current rep system where it shows popularity post by post

Yes there is, each tweet has a counter for amount of favourites/retweets and your profile has a count of favourites? Sure twitter doesn't say you've received x favourites in total' (although I'm sure an external party does) doesn't mean it's not a like system though.

I completely disagree, if I get favourited 3000 times I don't suddenly have a favourite power of 30

Where as if you look at that you'd see +2 on the post. So for example countless times I've insulted FlyingJesus and ended up with like 10 +reps so it looks like insulting flyingjesus is a good thing (I won't argue about that, but from the perspective of the forum it's not, as it's promoting negativity and bullying in a sense)

Typically you're going to get people in graphics telling you what's wrong rather than -repping you (unless you're ripping peoples work)

Yes, you would currently see +2 on both, but I'm also an advocate of showing -rep in the bottom left and that's something else entirely. Also, if you've ever been in the graphics section, nowadays you don't really get anything (the whole subforum is basically dead). It was just an example on how -rep isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Yeah I mean back in the day, when graphics was hugely popular rep wasn't that common and comments were.

Sure, but with the current system it's the exact same. But there is NO chance of users spotting it (unless you're involved in the abuse)

At the end of the day, abuse doesn't happen that much until a couple of people run a script on the forum. Fair point nonetheless. Could possibly be countered with showing who reps alongside how many reps per post.

Argue that with the forum managers and GM's, Wispur posted suggesting otherwise.

ideally you wouldn't want people agreeing with something that's insulting someone, they'd be more reluctant as they'd be 'out there' and that person can see who actually dislike/hates them.

"Extremist" views =/= insulting someone. In many cases, it can mean the exact opposite.

Care to show some extremists views?

I know. Like system provides both, my initial point.

This matters, because? I thought your point was towards an equal voice more so than being able to see the amount of posts? I'm sure it wouldn't be overly difficult to put something in to count up the posts without changing to a like system.

There's multiple points, equal voice being one this being another. We've quoted each other so many times idk what the original point in this part of the quote relates to.

I can guarantee more than 1 person has thought wtf is the rep system (guarantee as in the 11 years I've been here I've seen people question in both help desk and forum).

But that could still be a tiny percentage in the grand scheme of things. I'd understand if you were talking more 80% of people finding it confusing, but it doesn't really seem to be like that.

It was one part that was brought up in a previous thread regarding this, so I figured it deserved its place as obviously some do see it as confusing when they join.

Green

At the end of the day, I don't care so much if rep goes (though I do think it should be exported and put somewhere if it gets completely wiped), I just disagree with only having the ability to like something and not dislike it.

idk what colour i done this time

[FlyingJesus]

The points I cut out don't need replies as they are either pure conjecture or flat out lies, as is most of what you've replied saying there. As for power being the issue, remind me again why it's a bad thing that I and a great many others here can reward people well when they do admirable things, because it seems that has never actually been explained other than "it's unfair to have a bigger number!!!!!!!" when other than on the display (and what you're really advocating for is just a different type of display) it does far more good to the community at large than it does to me personally

[The Don]

With no valid argument other than power.


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Have you missed the multiple paragraphs by @dbgtz; and @FlyingJesus; or something?

[FlyingJesus]

With no valid argument other than power.

Try reading it's really fun