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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Then it's a fight to the death as only one can emerge as the winner.

    In Canada the same thing happened. And your side lost.
    Sadly for you, my side will be one hell of a lot more victorious than UKIP.

    I don't understand why a UKIP supporter would want a party that doesn't even want a referendum on Europe in Government, rather than one that is at least somewhat right wing and offering a referendum?


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    Quote Originally Posted by conservative View Post
    I wouldn't want that, I want a more right wing tory party. However, at the same time I don't want Nigel Farage anywhere near government. Despise him.
    You seem to be voting somebody who seems to have not one part of your interest at heart, other then his own political gain in power to destroy this country & before you use his excuses of the economy recovering under his party, well that was not down to him, that was down to the country not really giving a rat ass and carrying on as normal.

    And also, please tell me one public sector this man has improved for the working class? I mean, he is our Prime Minister right? What has he actually improved in the NHS, Public transport, etc?

    NOTHING.

    I want change, I want a better future, no more lies, no more avoiding the question & no more same answers.

    I actually want a new government who can promise me before the election and deliver after the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by conservative View Post
    Sadly for you, my side will be one hell of a lot more victorious than UKIP.

    I don't understand why a UKIP supporter would want a party that doesn't even want a referendum on Europe in Government, rather than one that is at least somewhat right wing and offering a referendum?
    What's right wing or remotely conservative about the Tory Party?

    On the referendum, yeah somehow we don't believe you given how you've promised referendums before and gone back on your word, signed us up in the first place to the entire thing based on a lie and have signed every single major treaty with the EU. Indeed, your record on the EU is so shameful on it that you make Labour look good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by conservative View Post
    I don't understand why a UKIP supporter would want a party that doesn't even want a referendum on Europe in Government, rather than one that is at least somewhat right wing and offering a referendum?
    Because he knows that UKIP is just a reactionary party and so he wants a weak government for an easier target next time. Doesn't want the best for the country, just the best for his party
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    48 hours, it's rather sad how I can't wait til Thursday
    This whole election campaign has been desperate tactics. Vote Labour, get SNP. Vote UKIP, get Labour. blah blah blah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthquake View Post
    You seem to be voting somebody who seems to have not one part of your interest at heart, other then his own political gain in power to destroy this country & before you use his excuses of the economy recovering under his party, well that was not down to him, that was down to the country not really giving a rat ass and carrying on as normal.

    And also, please tell me one public sector this man has improved for the working class? I mean, he is our Prime Minister right? What has he actually improved in the NHS, Public transport, etc?

    NOTHING.

    I want change, I want a better future, no more lies, no more avoiding the question & no more same answers.

    I actually want a new government who can promise me before the election and deliver after the election.
    Well, I believe in HS2 - public transport case one. Railways need to be nationalised, though.

    The thing is, sweet cheeks, I am not voting for the working class. I am voting based on my own position in life and my own future; not for the working class.

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    What's right wing or remotely conservative about the Tory Party?

    On the referendum, yeah somehow we don't believe you given how you've promised referendums before and gone back on your word, signed us up in the first place to the entire thing based on a lie and have signed every single major treaty with the EU. Indeed, your record on the EU is so shameful on it that you make Labour look good.
    At 1am, I cannot be bothered to make a long post, but things like this; http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ection-5532843 make it pretty obvious the Conservatives are on the right of the spectrum (albeit not very).

    Also, not following through with the 2017 referendum would be political suicide for the Conservatives. far more so than the boring Lisbon Treaty. Obviously not boring, but incredibly insignificant compared to being in or out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Because he knows that UKIP is just a reactionary party and so he wants a weak government for an easier target next time. Doesn't want the best for the country, just the best for his party
    A supporter of the useless Tory Party accusing somebody else of putting the country before party has to be the most ironic thing i've ever read.

    Quote Originally Posted by conservative View Post
    At 1am, I cannot be bothered to make a long post, but things like this; http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ection-5532843 make it pretty obvious the Conservatives are on the right of the spectrum (albeit not very).
    Quoting the Daily Mirror and Kenneth Clarke calling something too right wing is like asking Karl Marx whether he thought General Pinochet was too right wing. I am a conservative: I believe in national sovereignty, constrained foreign policy and selective education. The Tories offer none of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by conservative
    [Also, not following through with the 2017 referendum would be political suicide for the Conservatives. far more so than the boring Lisbon Treaty. Obviously not boring, but incredibly insignificant compared to being in or out.
    We don't believe you.

    In any case, even if you did hold one it'd be the same trick as the one they pulled in 1975.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    A supporter of the useless Tory Party accusing somebody else of putting the country before party has to be the most ironic thing i've ever read.



    Quoting the Daily Mirror and Kenneth Clarke calling something too right wing is like asking Karl Marx whether he thought General Pinochet was too right wing. I am a conservative: I believe in national sovereignty, constrained foreign policy and selective education. The Tories offer none of this.



    We don't believe you.

    In any case, even if you did hold one it'd be the same trick as the one they pulled in 1975.

    Sorry, I forgot we could only use stupid newspapers when it suits you (cough daily mail x102938 cough)


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    Quote Originally Posted by conservative View Post
    Sorry, I forgot we could only use stupid newspapers when it suits you (cough daily mail x102938 cough)
    I barely use the Daily Mail anymore because of silly comments like that on every thread. In any case, the Daily Mail supports the Tory Party which in turn supports the end of our national sovereignty, parliamentary independence and everything else that comes with membership. It's no friend of mine or Britain.

    As a newspaper, it puts party before country just like yourself and Tom.


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