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    Quote Originally Posted by buttons View Post
    it's 56 out of 59 (according to google) lol, we were only expected 58/59 after the polls
    Oh right, well I knew it was 3 less just didn't know the total seats. Still, 3 less than they could have gotten and 1 Scottish Conservative MP means they can't claim about no Scottish representation in government.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    I'm not entirely sure but they came out with less seats than they went in with, which is a pretty spectacular failure.
    To be fair, to be fair, they might just win all the 3 undeclared seats. You never know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    I'm not entirely sure but they came out with less seats than they went in with, which is a pretty spectacular failure.
    yeah but he lost a few thousand in one constituency, along with their seat, but increased their votes in many other constituencies?
    imo it doesn't seem fair. even if it's good for the country, it still means that much people don't have a voice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by buttons View Post
    yeah but he lost a few thousand in one constituency, along with their seat, but increased their votes in many other constituencies?
    imo it doesn't seem fair. even if it's good for the country, it still means that much people don't have a voice.
    But more people voted for the other candidate? They would do even worse under other systems.

    People did have a voice; the loudest voice was for Conservatives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by buttons View Post
    yeah but he lost a few thousand in one constituency, along with their seat, but increased their votes in many other constituencies?
    imo it doesn't seem fair. even if it's good for the country, it still means that much people don't have a voice.
    Oh of course, that's the problem with our voting system... But even with FPTP both UKIP and Labour were predicted to do far better than they did. It was a failure for most parties.

    It's also worth keeping in mind that if we had a different voting system people would be more likely to vote differently meaning you can't use these results to see how well a party would've performed under a different voting system.
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    If the House of Commons were held under Proportional Representation then this is what the chamber would look like roughly.

    Conservatives: 240 seats
    Labour: 202 seats
    Ukip: 85 seats
    Liberal Democrats: 52 seats
    SNP: 33 seats
    Greens: 26 seats


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    Also, it's worth noting SNP do disproportionately well too - way less than half the number of votes that UKIP received, and they got 56x more seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    If the House of Commons were held under Proportional Representation then this is what the chamber would look like roughly.

    Conservatives: 240 seats
    Labour: 202 seats
    Ukip: 85 seats
    Liberal Democrats: 52 seats
    SNP: 33 seats
    Greens: 26 seats
    Looks like Political Gridlock to me.


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    i know that dom, same with N.Ireland parties. i mean it seems fair on one hand because it's going by constituencies but it doesn't seem fair on the other cause so much people's vote doesn't count. just wondering if there was a fairer way of voting, regardless of the outcome?

    alsoooooooo is the ireland results good or bad? all i saw was "a racist party got majority in n ireland!!111" but ppl say that about any party that wins


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    Quote Originally Posted by buttons
    alsoooooooo is the ireland results good or bad? all i saw was "a racist party got majority in n ireland!!111" but ppl say that about any party that wins
    Unionists increased their seats in Northern Ireland so in my eyes thats a good result.

    If you're an Irish republican on the other hand then obviously that's bad.


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    1 seat is not 3rd place whatever undertaker says.

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    If the House of Commons were held under Proportional Representation then this is what the chamber would look like roughly.

    Conservatives: 240 seats
    Labour: 202 seats
    Ukip: 85 seats
    Liberal Democrats: 52 seats
    SNP: 33 seats
    Greens: 26 seats
    that is only 1 method of proportional representation, figures youd pick the one that shows UKIP in the best light. so predictable. if we had AV then things would look very different indeed. rip ukip we hardly knew yee



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    Quote Originally Posted by buttons View Post
    @FlyingJesus; brighton... green party.. hahahah
    I know I can't believe those idiots re-elected her after all the troubles they caused. Brighton's got a really weird political makeup; Pavilion went Green, Kemptown went Conservative and Hove went Labour luckily for me I'm in the Conservative stronghold of Worthing East *+*+*+*

    Quote Originally Posted by conservative View Post
    Didn't he say that they 'captured more young women', rather than the majority being young women?
    That sounds a bit sinister

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    If the House of Commons were held under Proportional Representation then this is what the chamber would look like roughly.

    Conservatives: 240 seats
    Labour: 202 seats
    Ukip: 85 seats
    Liberal Democrats: 52 seats
    SNP: 33 seats
    Greens: 26 seats
    That would be so messy people who want PR must want nothing to ever pass everything to stay exactly as it is forever

    Overall far better result than I'd ever hoped for personally, was thinking Conservatives would have to join up with DUP at the very least to keep in power originally. The only real disappointment was Paddy Ashdown refusing to eat a hat

    Quote Originally Posted by Okeanos View Post
    1 seat is not 3rd place whatever undertaker says.
    To be fair to him that's not what you said; you said that others had got more votes than UKIP when they didn't
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