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    You can't use it to fund that sort of thing Dan. You can only use it for parliamentary business so I agree with Carswell. He'd be spending money because it's available rather than because it's sensible and I'd have thought you with your incessant hatred of wasting money would be more supportive of Carswell for taking a principled stand about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inseriousity. View Post
    You can't use it to fund that sort of thing Dan. You can only use it for parliamentary business so I agree with Carswell. He'd be spending money because it's available rather than because it's sensible and I'd have thought you with your incessant hatred of wasting money would be more supportive of Carswell for taking a principled stand about it.
    That is what I read, that you get £33 for every 200 votes ontop of per MP.

    In any case I think from the unfolding events over the afternoon it's clear to see this was never about short money anyway.
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    Looks like it is an attempted/unfolding coup and it keeps escalating by the hour.

    I'll keep updating this list although the Telegraph have a good feed: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...isis-live.html

    Team Farage: Former leader Lord Pearson, Arron Banks (donor), Roger Helmer MEP, Alan Bown (donor), Lord Hesketh, Deputy Leader Paul Nuttall MEP, the Earl of Darmouth MEP, David Coburn MEP, Nathan Gill MEP, Ko Barclay (director/donor), Richard Desmond (Daily Express owner) Raheem Kassam (advisor), party chairman Steve Crowther all issuing statements or are said to be backing Farage.

    The rebels: appear from the face of it to be Patrick O'Flynn MEP, Douglas Carswell MP, the London Mayfair press office, Suzanne Evans, Stuart Wheeler (donor), Mark Reckless, Hugh Williams (party treasurer), Godfrey Bloom and maybe Steven Woolfe MEP and Tim Aker MEP.

    If you look at the Ukip twitter feed then it is endorsement after endorsement being issued which says to me a coup.

    https://twitter.com/UKIP
    http://www.ukip.org/statement_from_l...p_in_the_lords
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    What a mess.

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    Sounds very 'establishment-ish'.

    Supporters of Nigel Farage have been accused of forcing the party's 22 MEPs to sign a letter backing the UKIP leader.
    However, it's understood considerable pressure was placed on the MEPs to sign the letter, which is due to be published shortly.
    One said they were left in no doubt that if they did not sign, their careers would suffer.
    "Our arms were twisted so far up our backs we were left little option but to sign," said one.
    However, it's claimed some of the MEPs were deeply reluctant. One said he was not opposed to Mr Farage previously but - because of the "strong arm tactics" - now felt he should resign.


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    Douglas Carswell MP now sniping from the sidelines in The Times tonight - http://order-order.com/2015/05/15/ca...mdKVOtVL8BoVVQ

    How about this suggestion. If you want the leadership then declare you are running for it or put forward a challenger. Or shut up. He [Carswell] and his clique won't though as they know exactly what would happen in any leadership election, that the members including myself will produce a landslide for Farage.

    He's right on the optimism point though, i'll give him that.


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    To be fair I'd be annoyed in his place too, the only MP in the party and being made to do the bidding of a guy who said he was going to leave. I don't like Carswell but points to him for potentially damaging the party
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    Farage forcing the position back onto Carswell now. Nice move.

    Longer Carswell and others take to declare their intentions they're losing any momentum they had against the Farage camp.
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    I don't think Farage commands the support of his MPs, maybe he should step down.
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    Interesting use of the plural there
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