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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    There's been no war on drugs though it is a complete myth. Drug laws have been weakened and simply not even acted on by Police since liberalisation of the 1960s. And since the 1960s de facto decriminalisation, drug usage has increased amazingly despite hundreds of millions spent on so-called education.

    I'd actually legalise drugs in an ideal world with no government healthcare but until then, the state has to regulate: and criminal laws should be enforced against those using rather than just the people supplying as they are now who are simply responding to demand. 'Education' by any measure has been a complete failure.
    Education in any measure is not a complete failure. There are forums people use to ask questions about dosages on drugs etc.
    I know someone who goes to festivals across the country giving advice and help to people who need it. it's the only way

    Other week someone asked if they could dip their finger into a bag of 250mg diclazepam of powder. 250mg = over 250 doses. They were an alcoholic. They had kids but wanted something to withdraw from without drinking alcohol in front of them
    turned to a legal substance and they had no scales.They thought that dipping their finger into a bag of power would be ok.

    We gave them advice.. hell i said chuck that shit down the toilet and flush it
    but yeah that's what people think, a grown adult asked that question...

    how many more people have to die from drugs? And then drink this safe alcohol shit with it which is the cause?

    Education no matter how shit you think it is it had saved lives and I've known numerous people who have died from drugs but yeah

    Education is not a fail. People die ok but we and other people can save a lot of people with our information

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Town planning: one thing that really moves me and makes me so sad is looking at old photographs of Britain's towns and cities from before 1950. Prince Charles was right when he said that town planners in local councils had done more damage to the London/British skyline and cityscape than the Nazi Luftwaffe ever managed to do. Take my own city of Liverpool for example, had we not lost so many wonderful buildings to town planners we literally would be on a par with Prague or Venice in terms of architecture although be it more industrial in nature. And that really isn't an exaggeration.
    To be honest, Venice is a bit of a shit hole and you really have to search for the fantastic architecture. However, I do agree with you on this one. Especially coming from the south, even in my lifetime I've seen the changed that have occurred in towns and cities and how fantastically fast buildings are being torn down and new ones being erected in its place. On the small estate where I used to live, there was about 190 houses. A developer bought the land, bought everyone's houses and now there is in excess of 450+ homes on the same piece of land. It just seems that developers are here to make a quick quid and sod the people that actually live here. The hospitals can't cope, there aren't enough schools. I simply don't know how they get away with it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    There's been no war on drugs though it is a complete myth. Drug laws have been weakened and simply not even acted on by Police since liberalisation of the 1960s. And since the 1960s de facto decriminalisation, drug usage has increased amazingly despite hundreds of millions spent on so-called education.

    I'd actually legalise drugs in an ideal world with no government healthcare but until then, the state has to regulate: and criminal laws should be enforced against those using rather than just the people supplying as they are now who are simply responding to demand. 'Education' by any measure has been a complete failure.
    I'd say the laws themselves have actually tried to become more strict, it's just not particularly enforced which is probably down to funding at the core of it. It's also far more efficient to target the source of the problem rather than the people who drugs for personal use.
    I also don't think you can call education a complete failure without a) providing some kind of statistics and b) defining what a failure is. For some, 1 life saved would be no failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
    Education in any measure is not a complete failure. There are forums people use to ask questions about dosages on drugs etc.
    I know someone who goes to festivals across the country giving advice and help to people who need it. it's the only way

    Other week someone asked if they could dip their finger into a bag of 250mg diclazepam of powder. 250mg = over 250 doses. They were an alcoholic. They had kids but wanted something to withdraw from without drinking alcohol in front of them
    turned to a legal substance and they had no scales.They thought that dipping their finger into a bag of power would be ok.

    We gave them advice.. hell i said chuck that shit down the toilet and flush it
    but yeah that's what people think, a grown adult asked that question...

    how many more people have to die from drugs? And then drink this safe alcohol shit with it which is the cause?

    Education no matter how shit you think it is it had saved lives and I've known numerous people who have died from drugs but yeah

    Education is not a fail. People die ok but we and other people can save a lot of people with our information
    Out of curiosity (again), what do you think of the morbidly obese who consume hundreds thousands of calories more than they should because of addiction (or other reasons) and what would you want to do about that? It's essentially the same symptoms but you can't exactly ban food.

    Quote Originally Posted by Empired View Post
    The education system. It drives me mad just thinking about it sometimes. I'm gonna rant about it for a bit now sorry in advance lol

    It makes me furious to think that a student who joins Year 7 completely illiterate and hardly able to construct a sentence out loud who is predicted Us all round could leave Year 11 with an average D grade and still be deemed a failure, whilst a student who joins Year 7 with B grade predictions can get them and be seen as a success.
    I also don't get why being good at certain handpicked subjects mean you are worthy and intelligent (maths, sciences, english, languages, basically school subjects) whereas if you're talented at something niche like horse riding or gardening you don't matter.

    Exams are also a total mystery to me because I happen to be fantastic at writing essays under pressure but that doesn't mean I'm more intelligent than the people around me. It seems insane that a person's intelligence is measured by how much they could remember about a certain subject for two hours one time in May.

    I absolutely hate the current education system and I think if I were prime minister for the day that would have to be the one thing I would choose to tackle.
    Speaking for maths and somewhat science (and I suppose this may apply to English/languages) but it's not really the actual maths itself that matters, but the idea it shows you can understand abstract ideas which aren't exactly present in horse riding and gardening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    Speaking for maths and somewhat science (and I suppose this may apply to English/languages) but it's not really the actual maths itself that matters, but the idea it shows you can understand abstract ideas which aren't exactly present in horse riding and gardening.
    Good thing I was only using them as examples then! And that still doesn't mean they aren't worthy skills. Just like home economics isn't valued anymore but I think it should be one of the most important classes! What's the point in understanding abstract ideas if you can't feed yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empired View Post
    Good thing I was only using them as examples then! And that still doesn't mean they aren't worthy skills. Just like home economics isn't valued anymore but I think it should be one of the most important classes! What's the point in understanding abstract ideas if you can't feed yourself?
    Because if you can understand abstract ideas then it is assumed you can understand simpler ideas. It's why a lot of schools may use test scores from Maths to determine what set a pupil will be in for some subjects. I would personally also say Maths probably has the biggest presence in daily life as much as many people don't seem to realise it. And looking at the subject purely from a schools perspective, it's probably very cheap to teach (per head).

    I'm curious why you think "home economics" should be one of the most important classes. I'm also curious what else you would consider important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    Because if you can understand abstract ideas then it is assumed you can understand simpler ideas. It's why a lot of schools may use test scores from Maths to determine what set a pupil will be in for some subjects. I would personally also say Maths probably has the biggest presence in daily life as much as many people don't seem to realise it. And looking at the subject purely from a schools perspective, it's probably very cheap to teach (per head).

    I'm curious why you think "home economics" should be one of the most important classes. I'm also curious what else you would consider important.
    Well obviously I can't speak for the entire country lol but from my own experience it would seem that generally the more "intellectual" you are the fewer supposedly "simple" things you can actually do. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to suggest that maths isn't important but it's not for everyone and therefore shouldn't be forced upon everyone.
    I'm not saying let's take maths and bin it and test pupils' intelligence purely on their cooking skills instead but I am saying I don't see why physics is valued whereas cooking is not. Everyone is good at different things but only some of those things are of worth and I think that sucks.

    Also, educating someone because it's "very cheap to teach" as you say is an outrageous reason for why we choose to educate our entire country's children. Maybe you were just looking from the government's perspective - I can't tell.

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    mental health & how its treated and dealt with, how its viewed in society & portrayed. animal extinction & cruelty and how the world kind of just views this as "oh dear". media & pointless celebrities and how this is beginning to strongly impact how women are perceived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empired View Post
    Well obviously I can't speak for the entire country lol but from my own experience it would seem that generally the more "intellectual" you are the fewer supposedly "simple" things you can actually do. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to suggest that maths isn't important but it's not for everyone and therefore shouldn't be forced upon everyone.
    I'm not saying let's take maths and bin it and test pupils' intelligence purely on their cooking skills instead but I am saying I don't see why physics is valued whereas cooking is not. Everyone is good at different things but only some of those things are of worth and I think that sucks.

    Also, educating someone because it's "very cheap to teach" as you say is an outrageous reason for why we choose to educate our entire country's children. Maybe you were just looking from the government's perspective - I can't tell.
    I did say from a schools perspective, it's not me trying to justify it Though, there does come a point where a school can only offer so much so some subjects are always going to be unavailable in some schools.

    Unfortunately, the problem is that in some shape and form, it will pretty much be forced upon everyone regardless of what you do. It also looks good to employers to have for the reasons I stated before.

    Physics is valued for basically the same reasons as maths, though I couldn't argue for the other sciences since I haven't touched them at all since school. Fortunately when people are aged 16, they can (sort of) go and do what they want and never touch maths as a subject again if they wish and do horse grooming instead. That actually raises an interesting point, is there a point where a taught subject (like horse grooming, though I think this was actually a BTEC level 3) are worthless? Or should all subjects be treated equally?

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    Corruption - I cannot bear it one bit.

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    drug use/ use of animal entertainment / k thats bout it idk

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