The Independent and Independent on Sunday newspapers to cease printing

[The Don]

Ohhh yesss but the Independent is always right. That's why it is closing down.

being economically profitable to stay open != being factual

you should take a beginners logic class

oh, and they didn't run the study themselves, they are reporting the results from a survey for the Royal Statistical Society and King's College London which makes your comment even more illogical

[-:Undertaker:-]

being economically profitable to stay open != being factual

you should take a beginners logic class

oh, and they didn't run the study themselves, they are reporting the results from a survey for the Royal Statistical Society and King's College London which makes your comment even more illogical

I love how you actually believe the Independent is factual.

Next up from Akeam, Johann Hari is the journalist to read. He has all the facts.

[The Don]

I love how you actually believe the Independent is factual.

Next up from Akeam, Johann Hari is the journalist to read. He has all the facts.

Did you not read the part where the independent is merely reporting on an outside organisations findings? Add basic literacy to the list of classes you should take

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Did you not read the part where the independent is merely reporting on an outside organisations findings? Add basic literacy to the list of classes you should take

Yes you know best. You and the 50,000 odd other people who read the Independent and Guardian.

The rest of the country is just stupid and uneducated. No wonder you're such a fan of the EU with such an elite and holier than thou attitude.

Anyone who believes in controlled borders, national independence and lower state spending is just a knuckle dragging racist. Becuz a study sed so.

[The Don]

Yes you know best. You and the 50,000 odd other people who read the Independent and Guardian.

The rest of the country is just stupid and uneducated. No wonder you're such a fan of the EU with such an elite and holier than thou attitude.

Anyone who believes in controlled borders, national independence and lower state spending is just a knuckle dragging racist. Becuz a study sed so.

Nope, I don't know best, i'm just pointing out that polling has found the average citizen to be misinformed about current affairs, and that the independent polling body Ipsos Mori is not the same thing as the independent newspaper.

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Oh the irony. You said this previously about the same polling body that carried out the one I posted:

I am sure I have told you this before, but here it goes again - when a poll says YouGov/The Sun or Survation/The Guardian it doesn't mean that the poll was exclusively of Sun or Guardian readers. All the Pollster/Newspaper thing means is who carried out the poll and who commissioned the poll. The poll itself is free of newspaper bias and is as scientific as any other poll carried out.

So this isn't a poll of Sun readers just as an Observer/Survation poll isn't a poll of Observer readers.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...51#post8086551

If you're going to be wrong at least try and be consistent.

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@The Don; what on earth are you on about. i'm on about your attitude not a specific poll

you came back with "ridiculous opinions" to what i posted when they're normal opinions. it's one thing disagreeing with people but calling a mainstream view of half the population of more ridiculous? and then posting polls on how wrong the public always are ohhhhh darling aren't you a special snowflake. only YOU can be right. ever.

whenever someone starts questioning the intelligence of the public rather than debating the issue it's a clear sign they've lost. it's sooo university student.

i'm sure you've done it before quoting studies from left wing academics showing that X who support Y argument are all stupid. way to win the public over m8.

[The Don]

@The Don; what on earth are you on about. i'm on about your attitude not a specific poll

you came back with "ridiculous opinions" to what i posted when they're normal opinions. it's one thing disagreeing with people but calling a mainstream view of half the population of more ridiculous? and then posting polls on how wrong the public always are ohhhhh darling aren't you a special snowflake. only YOU can be right. ever.

whenever someone starts questioning the intelligence of the public rather than debating the issue it's a clear sign they've lost. it's sooo university student.

i'm sure you've done it before quoting studies from left wing academics showing that X who support Y argument are all stupid. way to win the public over m8.

whenever someone starts using popularity as a justification for their argument then they've already lost, gg

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whenever someone starts using popularity as a justification for their argument then they've already lost, gg

Popularity can be an indicator of common sense hence why there are so many intelligent yet immensely stupid politicians and academics. Theory vs real world.

I never call sections of the public stupid for disagreement with me. I do use popularity as a justification though, cos like that thing called democracy.

[The Don]

Popularity can be an indicator of common sense hence why there are so many intelligent yet immensely stupid politicians and academics. Theory vs real world.

I never call sections of the public stupid for disagreement with me. I do use popularity as a justification though, cos like that thing called democracy.

common sense when they are often misinformed as per the link I provided?

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But despite all this which you say, they sell papers, and the Independent and Guardian do not.

Sales figures speak volumes about what people think. Funny how the papers which backed Labour are closing down.



The Guardian and Independent give platforms to pedophile supporters, terrorist sympathisers and communists.

Do you know why the Daily Mail and The Sun sells papers? Because the language is so dumbed down it is ideal for those who do not wish to use their brains and ideal for those wish to read what they want to read, not the actual facts. FYI - Daily Mail figures have dropped from 2,120,347 in 2010 to 1,437,541 (current). Daily Mail has lost over 250,000 readers in the last year (whereas Independent has only lost 130,883) - this itself speaks volumes on the British peoples opinion of your beloved paper. All newspapers have lost a large percentage of subscriptions over the last 5 years as digital reading is becoming more preferable for people. The only reason Independent is moving to fully digital is because it started off with low figures and the drop (which all newspapers have suffered) in subscriptions is no longer sustainable to carry on printing.

It won't be long till all newspapers go 100% digital - some will take longer than others but over time they will all do this. I'd like to know where the Gurdian and Independent have shown sympathy for terrorists or pedophiles?

But my opinions are more aligned with the British public than you, as newspaper sales and polling shows.

I am pro-controlled immigration, the British public are.
I am strongly eurosceptic, the British public are.
I back selective education, a strong portion of the public do.
I back cutting state spending, a strong portion of the public do.
I strongly support the monarchy, as do the vast majority of the public.
I back the death penalty, around half of the population agree with me.
I am against pointless foreign adventures, the majority of the public agree with me.
I am against opening the borders of Britain to those from Syria and Iraq, the public agree with me.

Most stuff I post on here is mainstream public opinion which is why even Labour/the Conservatives pretend to support much of the above at election time.

If your opinion was truly the opinion of the majority of British public then we would have a totally different political party in power right now. The surveys/polling are rarely correct - the last general election is the perfect example of this. The EU vote will also prove this.

Ohhh yesss but the Independent is always right. That's why it is closing down.

It isn't closing down, it is moving online. Oh gosh, you speak just like your crappy Daily Mail paper - a news paper where almost every online article has spelling mistakes.