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    Quote Originally Posted by AgnesIO View Post
    I don't speak as though you are a huge-fan; I'm merely pointing out that a lot of what he has said thus far just seems to be hyperbole.



    Banning all Muslims is a ridiculous idea.

    He hasn't self-funded a lot of his campaign. He claims he has, but he has actually only given a few hundred thousand dollars of his own money; the rest is in the form of a loan.

    Trump winning is dangerous for everyone; having said that, I am still unsure whether he'd actually do even 2% of the crap that comes out of his mouth.
    I do not care how ridiculous or unpopular his ideas are, what I like is how he says what he really believes or thinks or wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc View Post
    I do not care how ridiculous or unpopular his ideas are, what I like is how he says what he really believes or thinks or wants.
    Yeah, so did a lot of history's most evil ever people.

    Also, as time goes on it seems he isn't doing this; hence his many contradictions; he's quickly spinning his ideas in order to get more support.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AgnesIO View Post
    Yeah, so did a lot of history's most evil ever people.

    Also, as time goes on it seems he isn't doing this; hence his many contradictions; he's quickly spinning his ideas in order to get more support.
    He hasn't said he would ban muslims as though forever so don't spin it like that. He suggested a temporary ban from muslim countries given the very high terror threat which has left French and Belgian security services now unable to even cope anymore.

    In my eyes, it is sensible when deciding an immigration policy to discriminate in favour of those who best fit into your society and who do not pose a danger than not to. To not discriminate between people and groups coming into your country is the truly dangerous suggestion because you surely would want groups, religions and cultures that do fit best into your society than those which do not, right? Both for the benefit of the native existing population and those seeking to join it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    He hasn't said he would ban muslims as though forever so don't spin it like that. He suggested a temporary ban from muslim countries given the very high terror threat which has left French and Belgian security services now unable to even cope anymore.

    In my eyes, it is sensible when deciding an immigration policy to discriminate in favour of those who best fit into your society and who do not pose a danger than not to. To not discriminate between people and groups coming into your country is the truly dangerous suggestion because you surely would want groups, religions and cultures that do fit best into your society than those which do not, right? Both for the benefit of the native existing population and those seeking to join it.
    Once again, I don't remember ever saying that - so stop trying to say I am 'spinning' every post; that's your job. He evidently suggested it as something he would do.

    Or are we going to discount everything any candidate says with "it was just a suggestion" - might as well stop the election now if we do that


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    Quote Originally Posted by AgnesIO View Post
    Once again, I don't remember ever saying that - so stop trying to say I am 'spinning' every post; that's your job. He evidently suggested it as something he would do.

    Or are we going to discount everything any candidate says with "it was just a suggestion" - might as well stop the election now if we do that
    You haven't answered my point on immigration which Trump was alluding to - whether he does it or not is another matter but it does make sense. It is rational in your view to discriminate between religions, groups/cultures when it comes to immigration policy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    You haven't answered my point on immigration which Trump was alluding to - whether he does it or not is another matter but it does make sense. It is rational in your view to discriminate between religions, groups/cultures when it comes to immigration policy?
    Apologies; I'll be honest, I didn't actually read the second paragraph.

    Discriminating against people purely because of their religion, nationality or religion is not intelligent policy, in my opinion. I'm not saying it is wrong to be selective, but the measures should not be solely based on ones defining characteristics (well, the ones mentioned above). Obviously being a member of ISIS is a different matter.


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