International Side of Habbox

[Matt]

I don't mean this to sound passive aggressive but what "changes" are you thinking? An intl AGM wouldn't be able to decide to change minimums or the way the raffle is run - for a few example - they would just have the responsibility for recruitment ideas and general supervision (which is definitely needed, but doesn't seem like an AGM role?)

Nah that's a legitimate question. When I say changes I guess I kind of mean representation within management? Having worked my way up in both Events and the Forum department, it's actually really hard to talk to managers who are in the GMT timezone. And if there's no senior from an international background, it's very ... lonely? I feel like if there's an AGM there who is able to maybe listen to ideas, relay them back to managers or even General Management, it's a step in the right direction and would maybe help staff retention?

AGMs get a say in a lot more than just minimums and the way the raffle is run. Having someone there who can talk from a different perspective of an international background would just help in my opinion.

[lawrawrrr]

oh I totally agree. It's determining what incentive is best. I know the forum runs on the BST time zone so for me a "new day" on the forum starts at 7pm, so i totally understand. I remember when we have a large quantity of staff from the international side and even then the forum was not thriving.. (back in summer 2014 was a good time to look at) maybe ciphering what was working well then, and what wasn't we can take steps to getting that time thriving again.

Well... I've been in management since then and even I can't answer that question. I wish I knew why people aren't posting as much, I wish I knew why our staff, in general, don't get as involved with forum, why we're attracting fewer people.

There are some theories and one of them is that we don't have enough events, comps or bigger HxL shows (although they're starting to kick off again!) to get the name out there and encourage people to sign up - and that is something that's improving already! I'm also working on staff incentives and involvement but every time I've tried it in the past, even offering hundreds of credits, new people just don't want to get involved and I have no use why!!

[lawrawrrr]

Wouldn't it be a problem with an international agm as well not seeing the other agms even though it would technically be kind of a separate part but ur on 1 forum making changes (if you were to do so) blah blah so you would wanna be working close to the other agms. like when me and phil were forum manager that was hard

edit from seeing lauras post:

might as well have an international forum admin aka chippiewill but active

What would the intl forum admin do? Will helped out doing a few cool effects and coding bits mainly, which isn't urgent?

[Matt]

Wouldn't it be a problem with an international agm as well not seeing the other agms even though it would technically be kind of a separate part but ur on 1 forum making changes (if you were to do so) blah blah so you would wanna be working close to the other agms. like when me and phil were forum manager that was hard

Yeah there is that. AGMs would have to make it work though, just like you and Phil made it work. I feel like an International AGM would just have to take one for the team if it meant they could represent the non-GMT side and be there to help the international side as a whole.

And International forum admin would also work quite well and would be there to help with minor issues and maybe panel issues depending on their permissions.

[Nick]

What would the intl forum admin do? Will helped out doing a few cool effects and coding bits mainly, which isn't urgent?

the same as intl agm but not make changes i guess

[Brad]

Yeah there is that. AGMs would have to make it work though, just like you and Phil made it work. I feel like an International AGM would just have to take one for the team if it meant they could represent the non-GMT side and be there to help the international side as a whole.

And International forum admin would also work quite well and would be there to help with minor issues and maybe panel issues depending on their permissions.

Agreed.
I think these two positions are key for a non-GMT time.
One would be more community based, giving us a leader to help promote events, djing, etc. in the non-gmt timezone
The other would be more content based, giving us help behind the scenes with the panel, habbox.com and also encouraging forum activity.

[lawrawrrr]

Nah that's a legitimate question. When I say changes I guess I kind of mean representation within management? Having worked my way up in both Events and the Forum department, it's actually really hard to talk to managers who are in the GMT timezone. And if there's no senior from an international background, it's very ... lonely? I feel like if there's an AGM there who is able to maybe listen to ideas, relay them back to managers or even General Management, it's a step in the right direction and would maybe help staff retention?

AGMs get a say in a lot more than just minimums and the way the raffle is run. Having someone there who can talk from a different perspective of an international background would just help in my opinion.

I know what you mean and I see that it is lonelier for you guys as there are less people. I would like seniors HxL, HxHD and events that are international, but it does seem a little bit pointless when there are so few international staff and every time we've had one, they haven't really done a lot of recruitment at all (which is a major part of any seniors role, but particularly international).

I'm really against having an international AGM as it is - I think it has the potential to go against managers or the AGMs of those actual departments. I do think that having more say from the international side would be good though - weirdly I have been thinking lately about the international side and I was considering setting up a 'steering group' of active international staff and members to come up with ideas and maybe even set some of them in motion?

I guess that would kind of be like a feedback thread but with more responsibility and with people who are actually around during those times to give a real picture and see what actually works! And it would be a good way of letting you guys know each other.

[David]

weirdly I have been thinking lately about the international side and I was considering setting up a

[12:39:14 PM] David: laura will go IVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS AND MEANING TO DO IT

but yes i agree it's lacking if compared to other fansites you should return mdport and get all ur coffee club buddies to join

[lawrawrrr]

Agreed.
I think these two positions are key for a non-GMT time.
One would be more community based, giving us a leader to help promote events, djing, etc. in the non-gmt timezone
The other would be more content based, giving us help behind the scenes with the panel, habbox.com and also encouraging forum activity.

But they're senior role requirements IMO! The only thing extra would be admin on certain panels and things, which rarely go wrong any more - things like the server going down only a few people are trusted with etc etc. I guess I'm sceptical because every time we've appointed someone to particularly promote intl it's not been done :/

[lawrawrrr]

[12:39:14 PM] David: laura will go IVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS AND MEANING TO DO IT

So? Am I not supposed to say I've thought about it? I'd hate that you guys think I'm totally oblivious to problems like this....