EU Referendum Megathread (Brexit)

[-:Undertaker:-]

I find it amusing that Sturgeon and the SNP are pushing for a remain campaign, they didn't even want to be part of the UK.

Quite bizzare really isn't it.

She wants independence from Westminster (elected) which is granting more powers to the Scottish Parliament over the years whilst wanting to join the EU which would mean them having to join the Euro currency and which means continuous powers going from Scotland to Brussels (unelected).

There was a great moment in the debate last night where Boris used Sturgeon's own quote on scaremongering against her after she'd done just that.

[The Don]

I find it amusing that Sturgeon and the SNP are pushing for a remain campaign, they didn't even want to be part of the UK.

I find it amusing that the same people who argued Scotland must remain part of the UK as we're stronger together are now arguing we're stronger apart from the EU.

[-:Undertaker:-]

There's some really interesting and encouraging rumours going around about postal votes so far received.

Meanwhile....

Senior Labour IN sources are admitting the party's haemorrhaging votes badly to the Leave side in the #EUref . See my report @BBCNews at 6.

— John Pienaar (@JPonpolitics) June 10, 2016

Certainly my experience talking to people who absolutely loathe the Tories.

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quite certain we'll stay in the EU.

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Downing Street are now in panic mode and intend to go even more negative with personal attacks on Boris Johnson, the Telegraph can reveal.

They're losing the actual argument so they're turning to character assassination. It's all they've got left after the OTT scare stories flopped.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...t-boris-as-po/

EU referendum: 'Panicked' Remain camp plans to 'take out Boris' as polls swing in Brexit campaign's favour


The Leave campaign and Boris Johnson have done well in the polling following the TV Debates

Downing Street is “panicked” over the EU referendum amid growing internal signs that support for the Leave campaign is surging.

Private data and internal polling which shows that after two weeks of building momentum there have been huge swings to the Brexit campaign has prompted growing alarm in the Remain camp, sources have said.

It has led to a marked change in strategy, with the campaign to keep Britain in the EU now orchestrating a series of highly personal attacks on Boris Johnson, one of the leaders of the Leave campaign.

David Cameron’s team has adopted a “take out Boris strategy” by allowing Tory Cabinet minister to claim he only backed a Brexit in order to further his ambition to be Prime Minister and associating him with Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader.

On Friday, the Remain campaign released a poster featuring a mock-up of Mr Johnson, Michael Gove, the Tory Justice Secretary and Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, around a casino table rolling a dice.

The poster slogan reads: “Don’t let them gamble with your future.”

Sources close to Mr Johnson have said that senior Tories in the Remain campaign are resorting to “playground jibes” in a sign that “they are rattled, have no discipline, no ideas and no hope”.

[The Don]

Tory Brexit MP Sarah Wollaston switches sides to Remain over untrue '£350m a week' claim

Tory MP Dr Sarah Wollaston has abandoned the Vote Leave campaign and called for Britain to remain in the EU over fears for the NHS.

Dr Wollaston, who chairs the Health Select Committee, has quit the official Brexit campaign over their continued claims that Britain sends £350m a week to the EU, which could be spent on the NHS.

She said the claim is "untrue" and did not feel comfortable being part of the campaign.

Boris Johnson has been travelling the country on a battle bus with the claim emblazoned on its side for the past month.

But both the UK Statistics Authority and the cross-party Treasury Select Committee said it was misleading.

The Totness MP, who is a GP, said it was more likely there would be an "economic shock" and a "Brexit penalty" for the NHS.

Last month she refused to hand out campaign literature featuring the claim, saying Vote Leave were "treating the public like fools."

David Cameron is expected to hail the defection as a major success for the a Remain campaign.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...laston-8145752

I'm sure you all will have seen the lie plastered around the forum in @-:Undertaker:-;'s old signature. Speaks volumes about the leave sides campaign that one of their main vocal points has been proven to be a complete lie.

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Downing Street are now in panic mode and intend to go even more negative with personal attacks on Boris Johnson, the Telegraph can reveal.

They're losing the actual argument so they're turning to character assassination. It's all they've got left after the OTT scare stories flopped.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...t-boris-as-po/

EU referendum: 'Panicked' Remain camp plans to 'take out Boris' as polls swing in Brexit campaign's favour


The Leave campaign and Boris Johnson have done well in the polling following the TV Debates

How is it a character assassination? They are the central leaders in the leave campaign hence why they are pictured together. I think it's a brilliant advert and shows how naive the leave side is, none of them seem to know what we're going to do if we leave, a literal gamble.

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I wonder what job or cabinet position Sarah Wollaston MP has been promised by Cameron and Osborne in return for switching?

Or maybe she really switched because MPs are being threatened by the party whips. Oh, you didn't know? Remain are up to all sorts of dirty tricks.

http://order-order.com/2016/06/09/wh...mps-to-defect/

Guido is getting reports that whips are calling up moderate Leave MPs and putting pressure on them to defect to Remain. A number of Tory backbenchers say they have been contacted by whips with overtures such as “you don’t want to be associated with Farage’s view of Britain”. A senior Tory tells Guido to expect a defection from a long-term “sceptic” to Remain tonight…

Veiled threats of the lowest order. Kind of like Labour's John Cryer MP who was threatened with the sack if he didn't back Remain.

Delighted John Cryer MP, Chair of the Parliamentary Labour Party will be voting leave despite Party attempts to bully him into voting remain

— Labour Leave (@labourleave) June 10, 2016

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Isn't that just another day in politics? :S nothing special.

[The Don]

I wonder what job or cabinet position Sarah Wollaston MP has been promised in return for switching?

Or maybe she really switched because MPs are being threatened by the party whips. Oh, you didn't know? Remain are up to all sorts of dirty tricks.

http://order-order.com/2016/06/09/wh...mps-to-defect/



Kind of like Labour's John Cryer MP who was threatened with the sack if he didn't back Remain.

Delighted John Cryer MP, Chair of the Parliamentary Labour Party will be voting leave despite Party attempts to bully him into voting remain

— Labour Leave (@labourleave) June 10, 2016

Perhaps you should listen to what she said herself rather than conjuring up conspiracies



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Using reports about labour whips as evidence for a conservative mp switching sides? lmao try harder Dan, if the tory party are threatening their mp's they are doing a bad job of it considering the leave campaign is full of them.

[-:Undertaker:-]

How is it a character assassination? They are the central leaders in the leave campaign hence why they are pictured together. I think it's a brilliant advert and shows how naive the leave side is, none of them seem to know what we're going to do if we leave, a literal gamble.

Because it's a character assassination. They're playing the man and not the ball.

If you watched the ITV Debate you'd have noticed how there were constant snide attacks on Boris from the Remain side whereas he just (sensibly) batted them off and stuck to the topic itself. The Remain side are rattled because despite the wild predictions of World War III, a Great Depression and waves of locusts: it hasn't worked. Downing Street sources thought they would be heading for a 1975-style victory of 70:30 proportions but it hasn't worked out that way. So now it's the last roll of the dice by turning it into gutter style slurs on Boris Johnson. It's really desperate stuff and demeans the entire argument imo.

I'm glad though they're going down this route because it just shows desperation with 13 days to go. I think a lot of people will see through it.