EU Referendum Megathread (Brexit)

[Jssy]

I swear half of n.irelands leave voters are in France lmao. Only cought the end of debate so will have to catch up tomorrow.

My auntie emigrated to canada years ago but still gets sent voting things as she's a british national and her and her husband have voted leave, yet now they're never coming back to live here it won't affect them anyway

[Red]

My auntie emigrated to canada years ago but still gets sent voting things as she's a british national and her and her husband have voted leave, yet now they're never coming back to live here it won't affect them anyway

They are just over for the euros though and doubt many would have been prepared and voted with a postal. I'm voting leave. I think any economic impact will be short term. Do have to raise eyebrows at those thinking the country is going to fall to pieces. You can witness first hand here the pressure immigration has caused with doctor appointment times and lack of school places, so that is my main reason for wanting to leave.

[lemons]

lol just got a leave leaflet through the door saying that my street is one of the most likely to vote leave

had some info bashing turkey joining the eu which is ironic considering about 80% of my neighbours are turkish

[The Don]

They are just over for the euros though and doubt many would have been prepared and voted with a postal. I'm voting leave. I think any economic impact will be short term. Do have to raise eyebrows at those thinking the country is going to fall to pieces. You can witness first hand here the pressure immigration has caused with doctor appointment times and lack of school places, so that is my main reason for wanting to leave.

"Northern Ireland had the UK's lowest immigration rate with just 2,200 more people arriving from abroad in a year than emigrating, according to official figures. "
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-31331243.html

Any perceived effect of immigration you're feeling will have more to do with austerity imposed after the recession than immigrants.

[Red]

"Northern Ireland had the UK's lowest immigration rate with just 2,200 more people arriving from abroad in a year than emigrating, according to official figures. "
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-31331243.html

Any perceived effect of immigration you're feeling will have more to do with austerity imposed after the recession than immigrants.

You can quote those figures but that's just not what I'm or other people are seeing with our own eyes! We have a lot of Polish/Eastern Europeans in my area due to a factory close by. A few polish shops in town, my neighbours are polish. My old primary school has huge numbers too. Why do they deserve a school place when people here can't even get their own kids into their first choice?

[The Don]

You can quote those figures but that's just not what I'm or other people are seeing with our own eyes! We have a lot of Polish/Eastern Europeans in my area due to a factory close by. A few polish shops in town, my neighbours are polish. My old primary school has huge numbers too. Why do they deserve a school place when people here can't even get their own kids into their first choice?

It's simply not possible to refute arguments based on anecdotal evidence. From the official figures I just don't see how a 0.1% increase in population is the worse alternative to the economic uncertainty a leave vote will have.

[lemons]

anyone think cameron will resign if we do vote leave?

[-:Undertaker:-]

You can quote those figures but that's just not what I'm or other people are seeing with our own eyes!

That's the problem the Remain campaign have. In the likes of Camden, Islington and other out of touch areas where politicians live: immigration is great for cheap waiters, cheap nannies, cheap cleaners - you name it. But they're not the ones who have their wages compressed by uncontrolled immigration. They're not the ones who have to fight for school places. They're not the ones who have to wait weeks to see a Doctor. They tell people that what they see with their own eyes is wrong.

Immigration is fine as long as it's controlled. I think if we Vote Leave tomorrow and get control of the borders again then it'll become a non-issue.

It is predicted if we leave, GBP to USD will fall from 1.47 to 1.10. This will destroy our economy, kill jobs, increase prices. We would be MAD to leave.

ZzZzzzzz boring. David Cameron said the same thing at the General Election if we voted Labour.

If we Vote Leave tomorrow and take back control, you know what'll happen? absolutely nothing. Besides, leaving takes 2 years negotiations anyway.

Leaving the EU "could prompt dragons to attack London", says new Brussels-funded CBI report. pic.twitter.com/Kpa7W9Z43s

— Daniel Hannan (@DanielJHannan) October 27, 2015

[The Don]

That's the problem the Remain campaign have. In the likes of Camden, Islington and other out of touch areas where politicians live: immigration is great for cheap waiters, cheap nannies, cheap cleaners - you name it. But they're not the ones who have their wages compressed by uncontrolled immigration. They're not the ones who have to fight for school places. They're not the ones who have to wait weeks to see a Doctor. They tell people that what they see with their own eyes is wrong.

Immigration is fine as long as it's controlled. I think if we Vote Leave tomorrow and get control of the borders again then it'll become a non-issue.



ZzZzzzzz boring. David Cameron said the same thing at the General Election if we voted Labour.

Leaving the EU "could prompt dragons to attack London", says new Brussels-funded CBI report. pic.twitter.com/Kpa7W9Z43s

— Daniel Hannan (@DanielJHannan) October 27, 2015

What a load of bullshit. I come from a council house in Bristol, not Islington. The polls are pretty evenly split on this, half the population are not the rich elites you're attempting to classify them as. It's nice and easy to paint the remain camp with the same brush yet when someone points out that all BNP voters are backing brexit suddenly it's "Don't generalise us, they're just a minority!".

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anyone think cameron will resign if we do vote leave?

He'll probably be forced out, I don't see how his party could have any faith in him as their leader.

[-:Undertaker:-]

@The Don;

There's a real disconnect between the working class of this country and the media/political elite. No matter how many times people register how their towns are struggling to cope with a mass influx of people, the politicians either fob us off as racists or come up with some flim flam about investing more or austerity. The fact is that people can *see* their local services being overwhelmed and we're fed up of being told that we're being bigoted or that it's just a figment of our imagination. Time for control. If we Remain, this issue is only going to fester and get worse as we're denied the democratic right to control the numbers coming in.

As a young guy I would like to buy a house someday, a decent sized house. When immigration is running at 300,000+ a year it is pricing me out of the market.