UK General Election 2017 Megathread

[-:Undertaker:-]

The more I read on YouGov's modelling and methodology in terms of 18 to 24 age turnout the more sceptical I am.

https://medium.com/@chrishanretty/la...s-9f88c516310a

[AgnesIO]

At present, I plan to spoil my ballot.

I cannot support Corbyn's policies (as much as no tuition fees would be wonderful); I don't view them as viable, nor fair.

However, I will not vote for the Conservative's if they spend the next week purely trying to attack Corbyn. They've made an absolute disaster of this campaign, and their marketing team should be ashamed of their efforts.

[lemons]

I don't view them as viable, nor fair.

not fair for who

[AgnesIO]

not fair for who

Those of us that have worked hard to earn more than our parents - the middle earners, the £40,000-70,000 people. Socialism isn't a fair system, even if the extreme left like to think it is.

[lemons]

Those of us that have worked hard to earn more than our parents - the middle earners, the £40,000-70,000 people. Socialism isn't a fair system, even if the extreme left like to think it is.

And budget cuts leading to increased food bank usage is fair?

Income Tax will increase for those earning over £80k which is about 5% of the population

Seems fair to me!

Under Labour’s plans, 95 per cent of taxpayers will be guaranteed no increase in their income tax contributions and everyone will be protected from any increase in personal National Insurance contributions and VAT. Only the top 5 per cent of earners will be asked to contribute more in tax

[FlyingJesus]

Why is it fair to put the burden on people who are already paying far more? Why is it fair to say that everyone in the future can have a free degree while those who've paid for several years of education get nothing and have their degree devalued? Why is it fair to bait impressionable youths with promises of freebies while openly demonising those you're going to force to pay for it all?

[lemons]

I'd happily pay for my degree so far and the rest of it if it means people after me get to study for free! Can't see how your degree can be devalued unless you do nothing with it or do a shit subject with no good prospects :Innocent:

The Tories have demonised youths for the past 7 years - yes because of low turnout - doesn't make it fair




On BREXIT I don't see how the Conservatives can make a better success of it than Labour... ultimately it will be the EU setting out what's what!

[-:Undertaker:-]

The Tories have demonised youths for the past 7 years - yes because of low turnout - doesn't make it fair

Not sure exactly how youths have been demonised, unless you're referring to tuition fees which Labour came up with the idea in the first place(!). I certainly don't want to be paying own degree off and *on top* of that paying for everybody else's via tax to be free. Fairness to me is you take out a student loan and pay your own tuition fee off.

On BREXIT I don't see how the Conservatives can make a better success of it than Labour... ultimately it will be the EU setting out what's what!

That's totally back to front. The white paper the Conservatives published, along with their manifesto, pledges that we'll be out of the Single Market and the Customs Union... thus no longer subject to the European Court of Justice meaning we're no longer subject to what the EU sets out. Labour on the other hand are all over the place on this - anything other than the Tory/Ukip position on this means following EU orders.

The fact David Davis and Liam Fox - two leading Brexiteers for a number of years - are leading the two Brexit departments is reassuring too. Believe me, after fighting the Tories for years on this and then winning I was looking for any tricks they could possibly play on me.. but from the appointments to the white paper to the manifesto, it is air tight. Full withdrawal. I wouldn't be lending them my vote for this General Election is there was any chance of the European Union continuing to set out our affairs for us.

[lemons]

I know Labour introduced fees but I think 3k was an acceptable price and even if JC was offering 6k I'd be happy. I'd even be happy with the system they have in Wales where they have tuition fees and grants like there is (was) for living costs in England. I'll be leaving uni with a debt of 54k which completely puts me off doing a masters some days

We voted to leave the EU and that's literally it

There is so much uncertainty surrounding Brexit and I think the outcome will be similar eitherway so I see it as one of the least important issues in the election. First priority of Brexit needs to be guaranteeing the rights for EU nationals here and UK nationals in the EU! My brother who has lived in Germany for years is already being asked by his workplace about his status and is considering renouncing his British citizenship.

Lib Dems are being dumb though do they really think Remainers are going to back a second referendum? Bye! I voted remain let's just get it over and done with

[FlyingJesus]

Can't see how your degree can be devalued

Because everyone will have one, it'll be the new A level and people will have to be in education eeeeeven longer to stand out


In other news this is hilarious: