Transgenders-in-the-US-military policy reversed

[-:Undertaker:-]

Very confused at this. Anyone has the right to serve for their country. It worries me that people who I share my generation with agree with the ban.

Not everybody does have the right to serve their country, and for good reason. Let's stop worshiping the false god of 'Equality' and think about it properly rather than hollow catchphrases. Old people cannot serve. Mentally ill people cannot serve. Unfit people cannot serve. Children cannot serve. The disabled cannot serve. Short people cannot serve. Overweight people cannot serve.

"Anyone can serve their country" has a nice ring to it but like the other LGBTZXYZ slogans it has no basis in reality.

[FlyingJesus]

There is no process to being transgender. Anatomy is anatomy and no hormonal injection is going to change that regardless of how big the dose is. If you're born a guy and you believe you're a girl or vice versa, you're mentally ill.

If you have red paint and add a load of blue it'll go through purple hues and at a certain level the red will be so diluted that it'll just end up blue, so "everything is exactly how it began forever" is completely ridiculous, especially when you bring science into it.
Being categorically wrong about things is not an opinion, it's just being wrong

[-:Undertaker:-]

If you have red paint and add a load of blue it'll go through purple hues and at a certain level the red will be so diluted that it'll just end up blue, so "everything is exactly how it began forever" is completely ridiculous, especially when you bring science into it.

It isn't ridiculous at all - let's talk science rather than paint colours. The human body is programmed genetically by DNA and chromosomes. These cannot be altered as your sex, bone structure, natural hormones and genetic makeup are determined from conception - right down to your hair texture. Sure, you can have an operation where they shape skin grafts to look like a penis which you then blow up with a pump to give the appearance of a male penis but it is no more a penis than I am Count Dracula when I dress up for Halloween. It's just a piece of skin shaped like a penis like my Dracula 'teeth' are just a piece of plastic shaped like teeth.

If I have muscle implants to make it look as though I have a six pack, do I have a six pack? It looks like I do, but in reality I do not.

Being categorically wrong about things is not an opinion, it's just being wrong

You can say that again.

[FlyingJesus]

Yawn, we've been here before and all I have to do is mention XX males and XY females and you have no real response. It's pretty obvious to anyone with actual scientific knowledge that DNA is not the be all and end all of what makes a person. Tell me, if someone is born a quadraplegic and has extensive surgery to give them limbs, are they still a quadraplegic? If your answer is yes, you're obviously not especially clever, and if it's no, then you must concede that science and surgery can absolutely change the category a person was born into. Your muscle implant situation is not relevant at all since that's only cosmetic, while gender reassignment goes so much deeper than that as you well know but love to ignore

ps: this

[MightyMagician]

Yawn, we've been here before and all I have to do is mention XX males and XY females and you have no real response. It's pretty obvious to anyone with actual scientific knowledge that DNA is not the be all and end all of what makes a person. Tell me, if someone is born a quadraplegic and has extensive surgery to give them limbs, are they still a quadraplegic? If your answer is yes, you're obviously not especially clever, and if it's no, then you must concede that science and surgery can absolutely change the category a person was born into. Your muscle implant situation is not relevant at all since that's only cosmetic, while gender reassignment goes so much deeper than that as you well know but love to ignore

ps: this

How.the.hell.do.you.surgically.remove.all.of.a.fem ales.insides.and.then.redesign.them.to.make.a.legi timate.male?

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Never mind the details of that, why would you let a random stranger(God forbid it be a pedophile) change your kid, and put in parts from the opposite sex? Need I mention that accidents can happen, and the wrong donor could potentially mean your child getting AIDS? I'm seriously not sure if I should be creeped out or disgusted by the thought of this.

[FlyingJesus]

That is quite an impressive display of ignorance with regards to modern surgery. Add it to the list of things you know nothing about but still attempt to preach.

Surgeons are PAEDOS with GAY AIDS medicine is WITCHCRAFT my liver is a BOY

[MightyMagician]

That is quite an impressive display of ignorance with regards to modern surgery. Add it to the list of things you know nothing about but still attempt to preach.

Surgeons are PAEDOS with GAY AIDS medicine is WITCHCRAFT my liver is a BOY

What part of my post said it would be intentional? I simply said that accidents can happen and you just immediately lost it. Considering the number of doctors in history who were serial killers, I'd say the sky's the limit.

[FlyingJesus]

I was merely pointing out how little that has to do with the issue at hand. Accidents can happen, so never try anything or trust anyone

[AgnesIO]

How.the.hell.do.you.surgically.remove.all.of.a.fem ales.insides.and.then.redesign.them.to.make.a.legi timate.male?

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Never mind the details of that, why would you let a random stranger(God forbid it be a pedophile) change your kid, and put in parts from the opposite sex? Need I mention that accidents can happen, and the wrong donor could potentially mean your child getting AIDS? I'm seriously not sure if I should be creeped out or disgusted by the thought of this.

Don't be a dunce... there isn't a single procedure in the world that can cause you to simply "get AIDS"....

[MightyMagician]

Don't be a dunce... there isn't a single procedure in the world that can cause you to simply "get AIDS"....

balls and penis require sperm to sexually function, as a woman needs to also have her own fluids downstairs. Where is that gonna come from?