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    Quote Originally Posted by Hecktix View Post
    yay my valid point about habbo not having an optional filter on their forums gets ignored again by those in favour of this
    Just like how you ignored my valid points about how certain members of management were conducting themselves a few months back. Kinda ironic as it's actualy related to this in a way.

    But now i will answer your point. It's pretty obvious that habbo is primarily client. Habboxforum is primarily... well a forum. Barely anybody on habbo.com uses the forums in groups, whilst everybody on habboxforum uses the forum because that's all it is. It's obvious that habbo don't pay any attention to these group forums. The evidence in that is that they are the exact same as they were when they were first introduced years ago.

    The habbo.com forums are extremely poor. They have very few options and as i said have never been updated not even when the filter was introduced. Habbo concentrate on their client, just as habboxforum concentrate on the forum.

    All these updated client features (client chat, client messages) allows the optional filter. You'll probably see the optional filter introduced to the group forums once they are eventualy given an update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin247 View Post
    Just like how you ignored my valid points about how certain members of management were conducting themselves a few months back. Kinda ironic as it's actualy related to this in a way.

    But now i will answer your point. It's pretty obvious that habbo is primarily client. Habboxforum is primarily... well a forum. Barely anybody on habbo.com uses the forums in groups, whilst everybody on habboxforum uses the forum because that's all it is. It's obvious that habbo don't pay any attention to these group forums. The evidence in that is that they are the exact same as they were when they were first introduced years ago.

    The habbo.com forums are extremely poor. They have very few options and as i said have never been updated not even when the filter was introduced. Habbo concentrate on their client, just as habboxforum concentrate on the forum.

    All these updated client features (client chat, client messages) allows the optional filter. You'll probably see the optional filter introduced to the group forums once they are eventualy given an update.
    I doubt that very much, they still have a forced filter on the chat system and minimail system too, both of which have recieved numerous updates over the past year.

    I spoke with bucho6 about the reasoning he thought was behind this when he made an appearance at Habbox in 2009, he had noticed a filter thread in our feedback forum and brought it up that Habbo kept the filter on their forums for the same reasons we echo in this feedback forum every time this thread comes up, the fact that with swearing (or ******) everywhere it looks very messy and unprofessional - you may cry out that we're a Habbo fansite and we don't need to be professional but may I remind you that Sulake constantly remind fansites that as they are "approved" by Sulake we must be professional to a certain standard or they will remove us from the fansite list.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any other official fansite has an optional filter, they may have more lenient filters but not an optional filter - this is for a reason.

    I will once again bring up the point that our filter is also used for security purposes, therefore making it optional would be putting some users at risk.

    It's not going to change, my mind is made up as is that of every other official here at Habbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouft View Post
    It would benefit Habbox in some ways I suppose, but I agree with what David says; there are substitute words even though sometimes you get in trouble for avoiding the filter etc. etc.
    Not if you don't say the word you don't.

    Obviously if you say the f work without the c you will be told off.

    But if you say 'oh for flip sake' you won't get punished.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moh View Post
    Wont work, as I'm sure the words are filtered out in the database and not when they're displayed.
    Did anybody read this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moh View Post
    Did anybody read this?
    Not sure what oyu meant.

    Do you mean you can't have the option, as they are either there or they are filtered?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moh View Post
    Did anybody read this?
    Of course not, just like they didn't read all the other valid arguments against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milestone View Post
    Not sure what oyu meant.

    Do you mean you can't have the option, as they are either there or they are filtered?
    That's correct. If they turned the filter off, the words that have already been filtered will remain filtered. You can't unreverse the filter, so an option wouldn't make any difference. I tried it on HabbCrazy and ran into this problem No way around it without a fair bit of recoding and it'll use more server resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hecktix View Post
    I doubt that very much, they still have a forced filter on the chat system and minimail system too, both of which have recieved numerous updates over the past year.

    I spoke with bucho6 about the reasoning he thought was behind this when he made an appearance at Habbox in 2009, he had noticed a filter thread in our feedback forum and brought it up that Habbo kept the filter on their forums for the same reasons we echo in this feedback forum every time this thread comes up, the fact that with swearing (or ******) everywhere it looks very messy and unprofessional - you may cry out that we're a Habbo fansite and we don't need to be professional but may I remind you that Sulake constantly remind fansites that as they are "approved" by Sulake we must be professional to a certain standard or they will remove us from the fansite list.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any other official fansite has an optional filter, they may have more lenient filters but not an optional filter - this is for a reason.

    I will once again bring up the point that our filter is also used for security purposes, therefore making it optional would be putting some users at risk.

    It's not going to change, my mind is made up as is that of every other official here at Habbox.
    Now why didn't you say that in the first place? Had you said that habbo staff actualy told you this it would have stopped the thread dead in its tracks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moh View Post
    Did anybody read this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Hecktix View Post
    Of course not, just like they didn't read all the other valid arguments against it.
    lol. If what he said is true Oli then it's impossible to have an optional filter in the first place.

    So if it really is impossible to have an optional filter, why didn't you just say that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin247 View Post
    lol. If what he said is true Oli then it's impossible to have an optional filter in the first place.

    So if it really is impossible to have an optional filter, why didn't you just say that?
    The logistics of things really only get looked into when its actually going to be considered. Seeing as (quite rightly) it was never going to be considered, I doubt he would have spent time looking into the plausibility of it all and probably didn't know the technicalities that may arise. Hence not being able to say that in the first place. I imagine thats right anyway.
    Sammeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammeth. View Post
    The logistics of things really only get looked into when its actually going to be considered. Seeing as (quite rightly) it was never going to be considered, I doubt he would have spent time looking into the plausibility of it all and probably didn't know the technicalities that may arise. Hence not being able to say that in the first place. I imagine thats right anyway.
    Sammeth. be right.

    And I did mention that I think Habbo filter their forums for the same reason as us, but couldn't remember the conversation exactly as it was 2 years ago, which is why I posted it after checking this morning - I have more important things to do at the moment (such as revise for exams) than back up points in threads about something which isn't going to happen and many reasons have been given why
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