Weed

[dirrty]

come on guys, lets all just blaze up and be friends

[Judas]

i don't think you can talk about posting 'personal insults' as that's what you've been doing constantly. thanks.

and yes, i'm saying it should be illegal or be controlled.

what's wrong with saying it can be addictive, as it can and IT'S BEEN PROVEN. holy crap you're trying to pick up every little thing and turn it into an argument. pretty pathetic actually.

Quote me on a personal insult, when you've told me to **** off and called me a smart ass? It isn't my fault if you can't create a sufficient argument without being personal :S

Yes it can be addictive, but whether the actual substance is addictive (like tobacco, for example), or if it's just by habit, is still not known. I don't think that is a reason for it to be illegal though.

And this isn't a personal argument, you keep trying to make it one by calling me things like a "smart ass" though. It's a debate, people often debate things. If you are incapable of doing so then discontinue, as you said you were going to a while ago

---------- Post added 14-05-2012 at 09:02 PM ----------

come on guys, lets all just blaze up and be friends

i will do at watch the throne this friday, we'll do it then yh

o wait

-files nails-

[FlyingJesus]

i know the facts of weed and that it is supposedly not addictive or harmful but realistically it can be. yes, my opinions are based on personal opinion but i'm not ignoring the facts and i'm not stupid.

I know the facts on Africans and that they are supposedly not inferior or stupid but realistically some can be. Yes, this opinion is based on personal opinion but I'm not ignoring the facts and I'm not racist

All generalisations are bad and have no place in proper discussions, especially when you're talking about things that directly affect other people such as legal issues. If you can't see what's wrong with saying "people who abuse a substance can be damaged by it, therefore it's bad full stop" then I wonder how you get through the day

[Glen Coco]

I know the facts on Africans and that they are supposedly not inferior or stupid but realistically some can be. Yes, this opinion is based on personal opinion but I'm not ignoring the facts and I'm not racist

All generalisations are bad and have no place in proper discussions, especially when you're talking about things that directly affect other people such as legal issues. If you can't see what's wrong with saying "people who abuse a substance can be damaged by it, therefore it's bad full stop" then I wonder how you get through the day

i never said it was bad full stop?
@Judas; you mentioned a lot of personal digs and insults so don't even try to act all innocent and perfect :rolleyes:
i didn't say that addiction is the reason it should be illegal and i didn't say that i knew why it was addictive.
i'm not creating a personal argument but you've been practically calling me stupid for the whole thing and not expecting me to defend myself?

[Andeeh]

best ******* post in this thread. i refrained from posting because i could argue for weeks about it and from what i can see it's just going around in circles, but you're 100% right.

there's a huge difference in **** you buy off some tramp in the street, unflushed and uncured, possibly "grit" weed and possibly sprayed. god knows what you're smoking. the majority of weed i've smoked that i've got from usual street dealers has not been cured or flushed whatsoever, doesn't stay lit and leaves a black greasy ash rather than a nice white/grey ash. luckily, now i smoke well-grown weed and i'd say it's honestly as good as medical grade, and i always have a choice of strains, so i can research what effect that particular strain has on me and depending on my mood, i can choose a sativa, indica, hybrid etc. obviously though, not everyone can do this - depends who you know.

that's why it should be legalised imo, because at least then people will know what they're buying, and there's no chance they'll be smoking chemical filled badly-grown ****. i accept weed is not for everyone, and and nobody should have it before the age of 18, because it can affect brain development in adolescents. but in my personal experience, it's easier for someone under 18 to get weed than it is for them to get alcohol, because alcohol is obviously heavily regulated and everywhere asks for id - a dealer doesn't care how old you are, they just want your money. that risk would minimised greatly with legalisation. probably just a pipedream though tbf.

Completely agree with legalisation for the benefit of actually having some decent stuff which isn't sprayed to **** that I used to get. It would be nice to have a coffee shop style that shows the menus and actually get correct weights that aren't skanking the customer out.

Another intersting thought which I posted in another thread http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...stination.html

[FlyingJesus]

i never said it was bad full stop?

You believe it ought to be illegal, one would therefore assume that you think it's pretty bad. Here's the problem:

I do agree that it affects your mind but only if it's done a lot, hence why i don't agree with legalising it.

Name me one chemical that is not dangerous in copious amounts

[Glen Coco]

You believe it ought to be illegal, one would therefore assume that you think it's pretty bad. Here's the problem:




Name me one chemical that is not dangerous in copious amounts

see that's where you're assuming.
i don't agree that it's entirely bad and i never said there weren't chemicals that are legal that wouldn't be dangerous in large amounts.
i just believe it'd cause more problems then benefits if made legal.
however, i do agree that it'd probably be safer if made legal, like @Andeeh; mentioned.

[FlyingJesus]

Forgive me for assuming that wanting something to be made/kept illegal meant thinking it's bad enough to remove people from society for it...

I'm glad that you've shown an ability to learn though, as you've just expressed a completely different opinion to the one you've been saying so far this thread

If it was legal than think of how many kids would be smoking it, let's face it age restrictions don't stop underage drinking or smoking so why would t affect marijuana? It messed with your brain so much if smoked regularly , and people would be more open about it and probably smoke it more if it was legal, this increasing the amount it was used. This would mean more psychological damage to the people smoking it and would dramatically affect how well people did in education. The people that smoke it wouldn't be able to function properly in work because they'd be high or 'coming down'.

i'm not saying that there are no reasons that it should be legalised, i'm just saying i don't personally think it should be

if it became legal it would be done far more and much more openly then it is now which, much like alcohol and tobacco, encourages children to start and binge drink, getting themselves into dangerous situations at young ages.

I PERSONALLY don't think it should be legal.

[Glen Coco]

Forgive me for assuming that wanting something to be made/kept illegal meant thinking it's bad enough to remove people from society for it...

I'm glad that you've shown an ability to learn though, as you've just expressed a completely different opinion to the one you've been saying so far this thread

ok i'm probably really contradicting myself but i don't think it should be removed entirely from society, just not made more publicised. I'm saying this with the viewpoint that just because something's illegal it doesn't stop people from doing it.

[Judas]

@Judas; you mentioned a lot of personal digs and insults so don't even try to act all innocent and perfect :rolleyes:
i didn't say that addiction is the reason it should be illegal and i didn't say that i knew why it was addictive.
i'm not creating a personal argument but you've been practically calling me stupid for the whole thing and not expecting me to defend myself?

I remain unquoted, your point remains invalid.

---------- Post added 14-05-2012 at 09:53 PM ----------

ok i'm probably really contradicting myself but i don't think it should be removed entirely from society, just not made more publicised. I'm saying this with the viewpoint that just because something's illegal it doesn't stop people from doing it.

...yes, you have been for a while now